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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #AskFedi

    I'm writing an article about W Social and I'm mentioning how it's basically a fork of Bluesky / is using its open source code.

    Are there any Bluesky / ATProto experts on here willing to help me understand something, in a "explain it like I'm 5" fashion?

    Thank you! 🙏

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      #AskFedi

      I'm writing an article about W Social and I'm mentioning how it's basically a fork of Bluesky / is using its open source code.

      Are there any Bluesky / ATProto experts on here willing to help me understand something, in a "explain it like I'm 5" fashion?

      Thank you! 🙏

      mapache@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @_elena I am not an expert but if I can help let me know. I have strong suspicions about why W selected atproto instead of activitypub.

      Basically there is more power in the biggest actors, a more "centralized" control, to ban/shadow-ban/censure and pull the plug.

      In other words it is more impactful when bluesky sidebanned someone or some community than if mastodon.social would do it. The firehose/relay is a the biggest point of control.

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        @_elena I am not an expert but if I can help let me know. I have strong suspicions about why W selected atproto instead of activitypub.

        Basically there is more power in the biggest actors, a more "centralized" control, to ban/shadow-ban/censure and pull the plug.

        In other words it is more impactful when bluesky sidebanned someone or some community than if mastodon.social would do it. The firehose/relay is a the biggest point of control.

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        @_elena So in my opinion. Why W choosed atproto instead of activitypub? It is more interesting for investors to create a platform that can be controlled, even if it is just to introduce ads or control the discourse.

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          @_elena So in my opinion. Why W choosed atproto instead of activitypub? It is more interesting for investors to create a platform that can be controlled, even if it is just to introduce ads or control the discourse.

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          @_elena technically is because setting-up/supporting/maintaining the firehose/relay layer is very expensive. Every single message would flow thru there.

          Creating the biggest firehose in Europe is such a power. So, it is easier to be controlled, and very unlikely to be replicated by other entities.

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