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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @s3a

    hi and welcome to mastodon, where people post things and others respond to them

    i thank you very kindly for responding to my post with your whiny inaccurate bullshit about "realism"

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    #26

    @benroyce I am not the one whining, guy. I'm not upset that you replied to me. I am not upset. You, however, seem VERY upset about a comment I made in reply to a celebrity. Again, I hope you get help.

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    • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

      @benroyce I am not the one whining, guy. I'm not upset that you replied to me. I am not upset. You, however, seem VERY upset about a comment I made in reply to a celebrity. Again, I hope you get help.

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      #27

      @s3a

      unread

      uninterested

      please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

      thank you oh so very much my good friend

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @s3a

        unread

        uninterested

        please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

        thank you oh so very much my good friend

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #28

        @benroyce Babe, if you're so interested, maybe stop engaging? lol this is so unhealthy and strange.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @s3a

          unread

          uninterested

          please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

          thank you oh so very much my good friend

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #29

          @s3a

          ...they said, continuing to engage

          😂

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @swordgeek @georgetakei

            could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

            we want the usa to improve, yes?

            so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

            we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

            cynicism is acceptance of fascism

            the cynic is MAGA's best friend

            jakenke@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

            I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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            • jakenke@mastodon.socialJ jakenke@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

              I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #31

              @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

              some is troll psyop from MAGA and geopolitical actors. maybe not paid troll farm, just random edgelords enjoying a game

              but entitled, lazy detached people who consider themselves on the left is also real

              a mirror image of MAGA in terms of a rotten society. these fake leftists are as bad as MAGA

              fake leftists because they do not have an ideological position, they have a psychological position

              they don't care about improving society, they care about whining

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              • jakenke@mastodon.socialJ jakenke@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

                I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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                #32

                @Jakenke @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei Have you considered not playing their game? So long as people drink the cool-aid (left or right) they retain control. Here's a great example of Trump ( #Taco ) blinking...

                https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364555001927978

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                • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                  Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                  #33

                  @georgetakei zero people have ever been held accountable.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @swordgeek @georgetakei

                    could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                    we want the usa to improve, yes?

                    so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                    we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                    cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                    the cynic is MAGA's best friend

                    lordkhan@social.cologneL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei you’re right. I still observe myself being being sarcastic or cynical to cope with all that shit, but I also realize that this won’t improve anything. There’s still hope.

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                    • manyroads@mstdn.socialM manyroads@mstdn.social

                      @Jakenke @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei Have you considered not playing their game? So long as people drink the cool-aid (left or right) they retain control. Here's a great example of Trump ( #Taco ) blinking...

                      https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364555001927978

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                      #35

                      @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                      well we feel a need to call it out

                      george writes a hopeful post and you can see under george's top post above many comments exhibiting this sort of dissipated, ineffectual impotent mindless cynicism that is all too common in the world

                      and only serves to help MAGA

                      so we'll call it out

                      it may be pointless for the person we are responding to, these whiners often seem too far gone and insincere

                      it's for the sake of everyone else reading along

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                      • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                        Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                        #36

                        @georgetakei This is why Trump & Hegseth are firing Generals & Admirals. They want leaders that will disobey the USMJ and International Laws about wartime actions.

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                        • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                          @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei you’re right. I still observe myself being being sarcastic or cynical to cope with all that shit, but I also realize that this won’t improve anything. There’s still hope.

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #37

                          @lordkhan @swordgeek @georgetakei

                          self-awareness

                          you have it, to your credit

                          and i as well can feel bleak. we all do at times

                          but it seems to be a dying artform in this world where some can pull themselves out of it, and others wallow in it and make it their entire identity

                          defeated people. learned helplessness

                          they only serve as an aid to MAGA

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                            well we feel a need to call it out

                            george writes a hopeful post and you can see under george's top post above many comments exhibiting this sort of dissipated, ineffectual impotent mindless cynicism that is all too common in the world

                            and only serves to help MAGA

                            so we'll call it out

                            it may be pointless for the person we are responding to, these whiners often seem too far gone and insincere

                            it's for the sake of everyone else reading along

                            manyroads@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #38

                            @benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei Here's an example of not wrapping things around a label. This person has a valuable position no matter he's in a right-wing government... Amplify thoughts worth sharing, de-emphasize the labels."

                            https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364607326117509

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                            • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                              Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                              #39

                              @georgetakei Every minute matters… please help us reach €300 🙏🙏

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                              • manyroads@mstdn.socialM manyroads@mstdn.social

                                @benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei Here's an example of not wrapping things around a label. This person has a valuable position no matter he's in a right-wing government... Amplify thoughts worth sharing, de-emphasize the labels."

                                https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364607326117509

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #40

                                @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                well i mean:

                                fuck fake left wingers who are just useless cynics coping

                                but also fuck right wingers

                                but you have your approach. i appreciate it

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                  well we feel a need to call it out

                                  george writes a hopeful post and you can see under george's top post above many comments exhibiting this sort of dissipated, ineffectual impotent mindless cynicism that is all too common in the world

                                  and only serves to help MAGA

                                  so we'll call it out

                                  it may be pointless for the person we are responding to, these whiners often seem too far gone and insincere

                                  it's for the sake of everyone else reading along

                                  pwloftus@pwl.farted.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #41

                                  @benroyce @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei I agree with Ben here and personally happy he’s constantly calling these things out.

                                  The cynicism and despair flooding the zone seems intended, to me, to reduce participation in the non-violent means we have of change.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                    well i mean:

                                    fuck fake left wingers who are just useless cynics coping

                                    but also fuck right wingers

                                    but you have your approach. i appreciate it

                                    manyroads@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #42

                                    @benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei Good ideas are good ideas. Good people are good people. Anything else is pretty much bias or deafness.

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                                    • manyroads@mstdn.socialM manyroads@mstdn.social

                                      @benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei Good ideas are good ideas. Good people are good people. Anything else is pretty much bias or deafness.

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                                      #43

                                      @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                      well said

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                                      • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                                        Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                                        #44

                                        @georgetakei Maybe the administration after the next administration.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                          some is troll psyop from MAGA and geopolitical actors. maybe not paid troll farm, just random edgelords enjoying a game

                                          but entitled, lazy detached people who consider themselves on the left is also real

                                          a mirror image of MAGA in terms of a rotten society. these fake leftists are as bad as MAGA

                                          fake leftists because they do not have an ideological position, they have a psychological position

                                          they don't care about improving society, they care about whining

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #45

                                          @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                          You’re right but IMO they mesh together. The most effective astroturfing takes a real phenomenon/sentiment and amplifies it. That could be as simple as vote and engagement manipulation to boost ‘real’ comments.

                                          E.g. after the last two No Kings protests Reddit was flooded with “it doesn’t matter/waste of time/these protests are useless” comments. Many were probably ‘real’ but astroturfers likely seized the opportunity to upvote them.

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