There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
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@futurebird at work it's literally the older you are, the more likely you are to use it for everything.
@puretaste
I am stunned by the people using AI, and how they fail to validate what they get. Yes, a lot of over 60s, but several late 30s or 40s. Grew up with computers, but not necessarily especially tech savvy)(While I qualify as an old guy, I seen a enough less than accurate or relevant responses in simple on line search responses to feel I was listening to the sleazier salesmen pushing their product over a competitors version.
(I use 'salesmen' intentionally, as there were very few women in the areas I worked in, and those few were very reliable)
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
i feel like the pan flashed very quickly and older people are the main ones still talking about how impressive it all is.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird Being convinced to "create with ai" shows a total lack of understanding both the technology and the arts.
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@Robinzz3@aus.social
I’m a fan because I don’t believe AI wants anything from us.
AI doesn’t want anything from us. The companies that create and sell us AI, now that’s an entirely different story.
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@puretaste
I am stunned by the people using AI, and how they fail to validate what they get. Yes, a lot of over 60s, but several late 30s or 40s. Grew up with computers, but not necessarily especially tech savvy)(While I qualify as an old guy, I seen a enough less than accurate or relevant responses in simple on line search responses to feel I was listening to the sleazier salesmen pushing their product over a competitors version.
(I use 'salesmen' intentionally, as there were very few women in the areas I worked in, and those few were very reliable)
@PaulWermer @futurebird yeah, and they continue doing it even though I've lost count of the amount of times I've said "and what does the source say", only for them to discover it doesn't say what the chatbot said.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird Yea, nah!
I know it very well, I have been an early adopter.
Two things true: 1. The most disruptive technology since the Internet, perhaps the steam engine. 2. The promoters and heads of AI companies, are crooks, greed heads and grifters
I am astounded at the rate of progress and dismayed by the culture of slop
The "doomers" and the "boosters" (I claim I am neither) are indistinguishable
A very strange time to be involved in computing
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@bob @Peace @futurebird light bulbs are so much better now
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@futurebird I can attest to the fact there are many software developers who understand how it works well enough and are in fact big fans of LLMs, at least for software development purposes. FWIW though I don't know of any of those who are fans of it outside of that realm
@aeischeid @futurebird That is not true. I have seen at least two use cases outside software development
1. Summerising long documents
2. Reviewing documents (a spell checker on steroids)
In software I find it more useful to have it review my code than have me review it's code
Point is, it is too new to understand properly where it's weaknesses and strengths lie
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@futurebird I‘m as hip and with it as the likes of Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron are …
@stephan324ppm @futurebird Cory Doctorow is a user
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It's not really true that "the most tech" people have the harshest words for it. Most tech people, including the tech influencers, have no real idea how technology works and are variously enthused by AI.
@richpuchalsky @futurebird are you sure she meant "most of the tech people" and not "the most techy of the tech people"?
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@Robinzz3 @futurebird "It has no private agenda, no hunger for status, money, sex, power or approval." that's all pretty true! However, it is built by corporations and funded by investors, all of whom have agendas and they're all bad
The only exceptions I can think of to "LLMs are completely controlled by technofascist oligarchs" are DeepSeek and that one Meta accidentally leaked and then made open source (which was still built by a corporation, one notorious for blatant human rights violations) -
There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
Basically this picture.
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@veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird
My Gen Z kids told me, that Gen X/Boomer and older are more likely to do not recognize AI generated slop.
I am doing art and photography, so I get a strange feeling, when I see AI generated Images.
A same aged friend of mine is totally in AI and loves his "creations"
Worst are AI Voiceovers. They raise that uncanny feeling in me. brrrrrr
@desatyr @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird my 15 year old calls out AI images and videos instantly, even in thibgs that are really well done. I will ask her what she sees, and it will take her some time to point out the things that gave her the feel. When I look at her points, she is invariably correct.
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@bob @Peace @futurebird Ok! I get your point!! "Smart bulbs", yuck. Even when they were WiFi enabled light bulbs, but, golly, do we get AI enabled bulbs now? Surely not! Say it is not true.
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@bob @Peace @futurebird Ok! I get your point!! "Smart bulbs", yuck. Even when they were WiFi enabled light bulbs, but, golly, do we get AI enabled bulbs now? Surely not! Say it is not true.
I have a IoT system in my house. It has no AI in it, but I built it with AI. It was my first experiment in "Vibe Coding". I was using Home Assistant - but it illustrates everything wrong (IMO) with a lot of modern Free Software. It is bloated, slow and uses resources like no body pays. My Raspberry Pi 4 was crashing because it overheated running Home Assistant OS.
Methinks AI features have landed, or are due to land, in HA. Mēh! Good lucjk to them!
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I have a IoT system in my house. It has no AI in it, but I built it with AI. It was my first experiment in "Vibe Coding". I was using Home Assistant - but it illustrates everything wrong (IMO) with a lot of modern Free Software. It is bloated, slow and uses resources like no body pays. My Raspberry Pi 4 was crashing because it overheated running Home Assistant OS.
Methinks AI features have landed, or are due to land, in HA. Mēh! Good lucjk to them!
BTW my vibe-coded IoT experiment: https://codeberg.org/worik/castle-iot
Only Tapu switches for now, all I need.
But a lovely touch screen interface - no X-windows straight SDL on the console.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
"Lower Artificial Intelligence Literacy Predicts Greater AI Receptivity" https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429251314491
(Full article is sadly paywalled but the abstract summarises. The final two sentences may make you want to scream into the abyss for a while.)
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird ... I am totally writing this out as a quotation to put on my wall. In my crappy calligraphy. Because this sums it all up beautifully. Thank you.
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@desatyr @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird my 15 year old calls out AI images and videos instantly, even in thibgs that are really well done. I will ask her what she sees, and it will take her some time to point out the things that gave her the feel. When I look at her points, she is invariably correct.
@ATLeagle @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird
In difficult cases I use my kids senses too.
Sometime they can not tell why, but most times they can point wmout what is wrong.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird I am old, baby boomer gen and everytime I read these threads I get the feeling that us old withered specimens get the blame for AI because we don't always spot it. I can barely spot my wife without my sodding glasses.
Many may not understand it but its not our fucking fault that it's taken over. It's middle aged tech bros mostly and the younger people who actually work on LLMs.
End of rant... Apologies, I am going back to eating my liquidised food while sitting in the rocking chair and shouting at the neighbours kids. Feel free to ignore me.
