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  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA This user is from outside of this forum
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    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

    alexhaist@wandering.shopA danmccullough@ecoevo.socialD wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW cynblogger@sfba.socialC aoristdual@floss.socialA 7 Replies Last reply
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    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

      alexhaist@wandering.shopA This user is from outside of this forum
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      I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

      jerzone@techhub.socialJ forestfjord@wandering.shopF G dgold@goblin.technologyD mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM 5 Replies Last reply
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      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

        I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

        jerzone@techhub.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @alexhaist I was just generally puzzled in my 20's.

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        • jerzone@techhub.socialJ jerzone@techhub.social

          @alexhaist I was just generally puzzled in my 20's.

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          @jerzone I mean, me, too, but I was trying to figure it out with a medieval studies degree

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          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

            I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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            @alexhaist

            (Un)Surprisingly, competent Germanic skills (all the Nordics + Dutch) helps a lot with very old English. I don't understand as much as I'd like, but significantly more compared to in my early 20's when I "just" had linguistics skills

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            • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

              @jerzone I mean, me, too, but I was trying to figure it out with a medieval studies degree

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              @alexhaist Between 1200 and 1100 it seems like they changed topic completely.

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              • forestfjord@wandering.shopF forestfjord@wandering.shop

                @alexhaist

                (Un)Surprisingly, competent Germanic skills (all the Nordics + Dutch) helps a lot with very old English. I don't understand as much as I'd like, but significantly more compared to in my early 20's when I "just" had linguistics skills

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                @forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)

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                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                  danmccullough@ecoevo.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @alexhaist This will be great fun to read in the blizzard tomorrow. Thanks!

                  Oh, and “for neuer in al my lyf hadde I beholden so foule a creature.”

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                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                    I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                    @alexhaist At 1200 I was lost. I got the sense with a Braille display and some gnawing I might have been able to figure out some of that one, but that's probably where it would have ended.

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                    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                      I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                      @alexhaist

                      Allas! I scholde neuer hauen icumen to þis toune of Wuluesfleete!

                      I know I should be able to read the 1100, and while finding I can read it aloud, the meaning of it has entirely escaped me in my dotage.

                      So 1200 is the last I can manage sensibly, and that much did I enjoy greatly.

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                      • G gaptangle@dragonscave.space

                        @alexhaist At 1200 I was lost. I got the sense with a Braille display and some gnawing I might have been able to figure out some of that one, but that's probably where it would have ended.

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                        @Gaptangle oh wow! I was thoroughly lost by then.

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                        • danmccullough@ecoevo.socialD danmccullough@ecoevo.social

                          @alexhaist This will be great fun to read in the blizzard tomorrow. Thanks!

                          Oh, and “for neuer in al my lyf hadde I beholden so foule a creature.”

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                          @danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.

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                          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                            @Gaptangle oh wow! I was thoroughly lost by then.

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                            @alexhaist At one point I had learned a chunk of German and a tiny bit of French, and don't recall enough of either now to have a conversation but some of the old structure is still sitting rusty in my brain. Comparing all of them and recognizing sources of phrasing or spelling can help with that if I have the Braille. Screenreaders of course with their modern English pronunciation rules wreck it all lol.

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                            • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                              This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                              In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                              @alexhaist by 1600 I'm reading aloud out of necessity.
                              By 1300 I'm struggling.
                              1200 I can get the gist of with the help of my linguistics degree.
                              Past that it's all just German to me.

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                                @alexhaist

                                Allas! I scholde neuer hauen icumen to þis toune of Wuluesfleete!

                                I know I should be able to read the 1100, and while finding I can read it aloud, the meaning of it has entirely escaped me in my dotage.

                                So 1200 is the last I can manage sensibly, and that much did I enjoy greatly.

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                                @dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
                                Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.

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                                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                                  @alexhaist
                                  Thanks for posting! (I made it through 1400, with a smidgen of 1300’s.)

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                                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                                    @alexhaist I'm fine as far as 1300, but further back is opaque. I find that those last couple of centuries, 1300 and 1400, become vastly more accessible if (a) written in modern orthography and (b) read aloud.

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                                    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                                      @alexhaist Wow. I barely read the 1500 text 😅

                                      My boyfriend however, an English philologist, recognised all the things he learned at the university! 😂

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                                      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                        This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                                        In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                                        https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                                        @alexhaist
                                        1200 is more guessing than reading.
                                        🧝 : "The languages of humans are many, and they change faster than a dragon flies."

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                                        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                                          I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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                                          @alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.

                                          Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.

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