Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms.

Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms.

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
enshittificatioaudrelordetechpolicy
27 Indlæg 20 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

    Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

    https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

    alineblankertz@indieweb.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
    alineblankertz@indieweb.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
    alineblankertz@indieweb.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #4

    @tarakiyee
    Excellent! Thanks for providing such a thoughtful critique + contextualisation. Literally the other day I went to look up the meaning of her quote and decided against using it in a specific context...

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

      Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

      https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

      evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
      evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
      evan@cosocial.ca
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #5

      @tarakiyee this is a really interesting point and something I'd like to approach more thoughtfully when we talk about the Fediverse.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

        Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

        https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

        endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
        endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
        endolexi@social.vivaldi.net
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @tarakiyee shorthand is always tempting. But I have to say I do agree that it would feel utterly wrong to me to collaborate on Gdocs for a text about floss strategy. It would be like discussing zero carbon while sitting around a coalfire. And any and all big commercial tech platforms are by now surveillance platforms - using them in any way to plan for countermovement feels self-defeating indeed, like announcing to the powers you want to dismantle exactly what you're up to. And I don't think antitrust law or whatever is going to change anything about that. The best thing anyone and everyone can do is to not use any of their crap, whenever and whereever possible.

        tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

          Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

          https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

          blurple@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
          blurple@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
          blurple@mas.to
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #7

          @tarakiyee That is very well written. I could follow the argument and it makes a lot of sense to me, without knowing much of the background. Thanks!

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE endolexi@social.vivaldi.net

            @tarakiyee shorthand is always tempting. But I have to say I do agree that it would feel utterly wrong to me to collaborate on Gdocs for a text about floss strategy. It would be like discussing zero carbon while sitting around a coalfire. And any and all big commercial tech platforms are by now surveillance platforms - using them in any way to plan for countermovement feels self-defeating indeed, like announcing to the powers you want to dismantle exactly what you're up to. And I don't think antitrust law or whatever is going to change anything about that. The best thing anyone and everyone can do is to not use any of their crap, whenever and whereever possible.

            tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
            tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
            tarakiyee@mastodon.online
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #8

            @endolexi I don't totally disagree with you, I'm actively trying to move away from big tech for all the reasons. However we both have technical capital, we can make choices other people can't. When the tool choice becomes the politics then we can't see that anymore. We need to understand the conditions behind tool choice or lack thereof, make those visible and political, and then change those conditions. Its hard and some of that work can happen on Google docs, they can't do shit about it.

            endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

              Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

              https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

              jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jdp23@neuromatch.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @tarakiyee outstanding post!

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                @endolexi I don't totally disagree with you, I'm actively trying to move away from big tech for all the reasons. However we both have technical capital, we can make choices other people can't. When the tool choice becomes the politics then we can't see that anymore. We need to understand the conditions behind tool choice or lack thereof, make those visible and political, and then change those conditions. Its hard and some of that work can happen on Google docs, they can't do shit about it.

                endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                endolexi@social.vivaldi.net
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @tarakiyee I understand, of course. It's just this perception of the machine eating up anything you serve it like that. And I sometimes think the barriers of the mind and the convenience of the conventional are the hardest to overcome. Like, the alternatives are there, and I happily support anyone who's interested. For me the tools just can't be separated from the politics, not when the toolmaker you want to oppose sees everything you do with their tools. Unless of course I'm on some 'poison the algorithm' kind of track, it's just never a good idea to me.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                  Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                  https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                  hko@floss.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hko@floss.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hko@floss.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @tarakiyee I love how the text doesn't aim to tear down an imperfect argument, but add to and improve it!

                  A discursive world with more principledness, but less tearing down would be nice 😃

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                    Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                    https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                    bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                    bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                    bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #12

                    @tarakiyee
                    thanks for this post i saw already boosted here, it tells bare and perfectly what's about.
                    when i first read the quote of Cory i was feeling exactly this, and was "woa"..
                    thanks again.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                      Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                      https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                      inquiline@assemblag.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                      inquiline@assemblag.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                      inquiline@assemblag.es
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #13

                      @tarakiyee

                      great piece! cc @jeremiah if you've not seen

                      jeremiah@tldr.nettime.orgJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                        Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                        https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                        foundseed@spore.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        foundseed@spore.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        foundseed@spore.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #14

                        @tarakiyee fuck, imagine having a take so bad about such a beloved figure, that the word you are most famous for is used to deride that very take.
                        I would simply delete everything and move to the woods if that were me.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                          Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                          https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                          oskarimkeller@fnordon.deO This user is from outside of this forum
                          oskarimkeller@fnordon.deO This user is from outside of this forum
                          oskarimkeller@fnordon.de
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #15

                          @tarakiyee

                          @tante might be interested in this as well.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • inquiline@assemblag.esI inquiline@assemblag.es

                            @tarakiyee

                            great piece! cc @jeremiah if you've not seen

                            jeremiah@tldr.nettime.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            jeremiah@tldr.nettime.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            jeremiah@tldr.nettime.org
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #16

                            @inquiline @tarakiyee

                            This is excellent! Thank you @inquiline for sharing.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                              Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                              https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
                              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
                              xinit@mastodon.coffee
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #17

                              @tarakiyee
                              Sometimes I think Doctorow is leading the enshitification by example.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                                Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                                https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                                dgold@goblin.technologyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dgold@goblin.technologyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dgold@goblin.technology
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #18

                                @tarakiyee outstanding piece.

                                I've always felt that Doctorow's 'enshittification' concept merely acts in service of bad actors in the tech sphere. He really is living proof of Lorde's statement.

                                tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                                  Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                                  https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                                  theodoraward@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  theodoraward@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  theodoraward@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #19

                                  @tarakiyee extremely good post that articulates something i've had trouble formulating throughout like a decade of hearing this quote "rebutted" in probably half a dozen completely distinct institutional/theoretical contexts

                                  tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • theodoraward@mastodon.socialT theodoraward@mastodon.social

                                    @tarakiyee extremely good post that articulates something i've had trouble formulating throughout like a decade of hearing this quote "rebutted" in probably half a dozen completely distinct institutional/theoretical contexts

                                    tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    tarakiyee@mastodon.online
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #20

                                    @theodoraward I was surprised by how much I found on this phenomenom in my research for the article! Not only other cases, but good analsyis and discussion dissecting it. Helped a lot in formulating this to the tech example.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • dgold@goblin.technologyD dgold@goblin.technology

                                      @tarakiyee outstanding piece.

                                      I've always felt that Doctorow's 'enshittification' concept merely acts in service of bad actors in the tech sphere. He really is living proof of Lorde's statement.

                                      tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      tarakiyee@mastodon.online
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #21

                                      @dgold I disagree on both counts. I think the entshitification analysis does something important and needed. I also wouldn't single him out, I'm afraid this an issue within the wider mainstream tech discourse.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                                        Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                                        https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                                        thiswomanswerk@blacktwitter.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        thiswomanswerk@blacktwitter.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        thiswomanswerk@blacktwitter.io
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #22

                                        @tarakiyee This is great analysis. Thank you. Also, I had no idea tech bros were doing that with Lorde and that is so very irritating...

                                        Reading your essay reminded me of this article: "The Fungibility of Intersectionality: An Afropessimist Reading" by Silma Burge. It takes up a different term, but it highlights, similar to you, how a Black feminist theorist's term is flattened, stripped of context, and retooled.

                                        tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • tarakiyee@mastodon.onlineT tarakiyee@mastodon.online

                                          Audre Lorde's "master's tools" speech was not about tech platforms. So why does tech discourse keep citing it as if it were? I write about what happens when a Black feminist theorist's words get borrowed, stripped of context, and made to do work they were never meant to do.

                                          https://tarakiyee.com/on-the-enshittification-of-audre-lorde-the-masters-tools-in-tech-discourse/ #enshittification #AudreLorde #techpolicy

                                          charlag@birb.siteC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          charlag@birb.siteC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          charlag@birb.site
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #23

                                          @tarakiyee I am not well equipped to make a definitive judgment of it but I learned a lot and I'm thankful

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Svar
                                          • Svar som emne
                                          Login for at svare
                                          • Ældste til nyeste
                                          • Nyeste til ældste
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Log ind

                                          • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Hjem
                                          • Seneste
                                          • Etiketter
                                          • Populære
                                          • Verden
                                          • Bruger
                                          • Grupper