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  • zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ zl2tod@mastodon.online

    @harold

    @timnitGebru walks among us.

    harold@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @zl2tod

    Why is this a blocked domain?

    @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

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    • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

      @zl2tod

      Why is this a blocked domain?

      @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

      zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
      zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @harold

      It works for me.

      Most likely a decision by mastodon.social

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      • zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ zl2tod@mastodon.online

        @harold

        It works for me.

        Most likely a decision by mastodon.social

        harold@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @zl2tod Weird!

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        • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

          @zl2tod Weird!

          zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
          zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
          zl2tod@mastodon.online
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          #6

          @harold

          If

          https://dair-community.social/@TimnitGebru

          works for you then it's mastodon.social, or your personal block lists there.

          If not then it's blocked by your ISP, browser, or extensions.

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          • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mstdn.ca/@teledyn/116652708401285794

            "every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at scale"

            1. The hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
            2. Bias amplification
            3. Environmental cost
            4. Documentation — the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit

            #AI #GenAI

            amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @harold
            All the ills Ms. Gebru’s paper identified have come to fruition in an alarmingly short period, even when measured by the spasmodic cycles of the IT industry. In just a handful of years, the following troubling trends have emerged in the industry:

            • AI has eroded the professionalism and ethics of the very practitioners who profess to be AI experts
            • AI has replaced the in-mind knowledge repository with the by-chat information lookup
            • AI has transmogrified itself from being just a tool of the intellectual to being the religion of the indolent

            These might well be the signs that IT, as a field of practice, is no longer a human endeavour.

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            • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mstdn.ca/@teledyn/116652708401285794

              "every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at scale"

              1. The hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
              2. Bias amplification
              3. Environmental cost
              4. Documentation — the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit

              #AI #GenAI

              cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @harold Hallucination is a term to anthropomorphize a machine malfunction.

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              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                @harold Hallucination is a term to anthropomorphize a machine malfunction.

                harold@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @CStamp Yes, I know

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                • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://mstdn.ca/@teledyn/116652708401285794

                  "every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at scale"

                  1. The hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
                  2. Bias amplification
                  3. Environmental cost
                  4. Documentation — the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit

                  #AI #GenAI

                  dckim@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @harold if anyone just sits in on a lecture in first year computer science... none of this is a new idea, it's only being implemented now at scale. The hardware has made it feasible. It's a race to the plateau.

                  You can't train it on it's own junk. Everything about the situation is very well known, and No, it's not all a fresh discovery of Today.

                  That's just the HYPE-FACTORY version saying 'ITS A NEW WORLD' etc.

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                  • dckim@mastodon.socialD dckim@mastodon.social

                    @harold if anyone just sits in on a lecture in first year computer science... none of this is a new idea, it's only being implemented now at scale. The hardware has made it feasible. It's a race to the plateau.

                    You can't train it on it's own junk. Everything about the situation is very well known, and No, it's not all a fresh discovery of Today.

                    That's just the HYPE-FACTORY version saying 'ITS A NEW WORLD' etc.

                    harold@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @dckim yup

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                    • zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ zl2tod@mastodon.online

                      @harold

                      If

                      https://dair-community.social/@TimnitGebru

                      works for you then it's mastodon.social, or your personal block lists there.

                      If not then it's blocked by your ISP, browser, or extensions.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @zl2tod @harold

                      the server is not blocked for me

                      i'm on mastodon.social

                      i've responded to a post of timnit's before and got a favorite for the response from timnit, so the communication is two-way and just fine

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                      • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://mstdn.ca/@teledyn/116652708401285794

                        "every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at scale"

                        1. The hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
                        2. Bias amplification
                        3. Environmental cost
                        4. Documentation — the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit

                        #AI #GenAI

                        thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @harold Maybe we should just stand back and let these morons run their companies right into the ground with AI slop. Might be our ticket out of this clown show.

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                        • harold@mastodon.socialH harold@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://mstdn.ca/@teledyn/116652708401285794

                          "every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at scale"

                          1. The hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
                          2. Bias amplification
                          3. Environmental cost
                          4. Documentation — the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit

                          #AI #GenAI

                          the_blackwell_ninja@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @harold Well yes, but just look at her. She’s not a mediocre white man so how are we expected to take her seriously?

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                          • thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT thriftwicker@mastodon.social

                            @harold Maybe we should just stand back and let these morons run their companies right into the ground with AI slop. Might be our ticket out of this clown show.

                            cohentheblue@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #15

                            @thriftwicker @harold The bill will always come due to the hapless, never those on top.

                            Look at Russia, it's not oligarchs biking over the fields under drone fire just to move at all between their trenches, even though the war is one of conquest.

                            Putin's country estate (not even his main residence) is better defended than most military installations near the front.

                            Water wars have to be fought before any shots are fired, by uniting the whole planet against anyone who would oppose that union.

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