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  3. I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

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  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

    I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

    They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

    They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

    They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

    #UX #tech

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    zbennoui@dragonscave.space
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    #5

    @jwcph This is why most open source projects fail in the long run. These devs simply don't care about the everyday user. I'm sick of having to install endless packages and get errors just trying to get a new project I like working.

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    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

      I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

      They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

      They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

      They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

      #UX #tech

      vladimirchicken@mastodon.artV This user is from outside of this forum
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      vladimirchicken@mastodon.art
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      #6

      @jwcph is it possible to free people who don't understand or care about the nature of their freedom ?

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      • vladimirchicken@mastodon.artV vladimirchicken@mastodon.art

        @jwcph is it possible to free people who don't understand or care about the nature of their freedom ?

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        jwcph@helvede.net
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        #7

        @vladimirchicken 1. yes - 2. you're assuming that *your* idea of freedom is the only one that counts.

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        • T thequinbox@dragonscave.space

          @jwcph "When most people buy a car, they don’t expect to have to learn how an engine works and how to change spark plugs. They buy a car so that they can drive it to get from point A to point B. If the car makes a funny noise, they will ignore it as long as possible. Eventually, it may bother them to the point of taking it to a mechanic who will ask incredulously, “How long has it been doing this?” And the answer will be something like, “Oh, about a year.”
          The same goes for computers. People don’t want to learn about gigabytes and dual-core processors and security zones. They just want to send email to their friends and surf the Web." - Raymond Chen.

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          #8

          @TheQuinbox at least cars come with manuals telling you how to do the thing you don’t want to do and give you advice how often you should have done it! XD

          I still miss that for any mainline OS/distro.

          /cc @jwcph

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          • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

            I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

            They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

            They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

            They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

            #UX #tech

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            #9

            @jwcph Exactly. People want the computer as a bicycle for the mind, as Steve Jobs put it. A tool to accomplish other things with, not an end in itself.

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            • kevinriggle@ioc.exchangeK kevinriggle@ioc.exchange

              @jwcph Exactly. People want the computer as a bicycle for the mind, as Steve Jobs put it. A tool to accomplish other things with, not an end in itself.

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              #10

              @kevinriggle Didn't know he said that - If I ever get around to building an OS (I won't... probably) I will call it Bicycle 😂

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              • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

                They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

                They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

                They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

                #UX #tech

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                #11

                @jwcph This is very much parallel to what I did my PhD on - covering the fact that (in work situations) people don't care about the computer, or the system and what it all does, and how it interacts with everything else.

                All people want to do is do their job, and the use of the computer should be there to assist them to do their job. That is all it is about.

                People are primary, a distinct part of the bigger system that is different form the computer. With all sort of special skills and abilities that need to be respected and supported. Computers are tools. Like a hammer.

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                • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                  I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

                  They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

                  They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

                  They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

                  #UX #tech

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                  #12

                  @jwcph

                  It would help if Linux people could stop making it seem more complicated than it is.

                  I use Linux and never use the command line, all the settings I want can be accessed through the graphical interface (just like Windows, Mac etc).

                  But most Linux guides assume you want to use the command line, so they needlessly scare a lot of people away from using Linux completely.

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                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                    I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

                    They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

                    They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

                    They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

                    #UX #tech

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                    #13

                    @jwcph

                    That is kind of why we're mostly pointing people towards Mint or ZorinOS, because they've already made some default choices*.

                    The point of even mentioning different GUIs is to ensure that people gets an experience that is on par with what they are coming from

                    *) MacOS is also at its very core a BSD distro 😉

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                    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                      I keep getting pushback on this but I'm gonna to keep saying it: We're NEVER going to free people from the clutches of Big Tech until we realize & respect that most computer users by far aren't actually computer users.

                      They don't give a shit about computers. They don't want to see a single line of code, ever.

                      They don't care about customization, "distros" or versions. They don't care about GUIs or desktop environments.

                      They just want to get to what they're doing; work or play.

                      #UX #tech

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                      #14

                      @jwcph I told my grandfather in the 90s, when he was trying to get me on Linux*, that Linux was for people that worked on computers, Mac was for people who DID WORK ON computers, and Windows was for everyone else.

                      It’s been a few decades but not as much has changed about this as it should. And yeah, despite knowing plenty about Apple’s failures… I still use a Mac. By and large it stays out of my way and lets me do my work. 🤷‍♀️

                      *Gramps came up working on the big mainframes, for context.

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