For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

[fenouilla_systema@mathstodon.xyz]

@Aphelie_epi_dor
Moreover, Tux is cuuute!

[elizafox@social.treehouse.systems]

@codemonkeymike ... unless it has a shitty wifi chip... or an unsupported sound chip... then good luck :p. It's a paperweight at that point, unless you run an ancient OS.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@purrperl @thegardendude @codemonkeymike
NixOS doesn't require traditional scripting. Instead of writing imperative shell scripts to install packages or configure services, you define your entire system's desired state in a declarative configuration file using the Nix language.

This means you declare what your system should look like (e.g., "I want Firefox and a web server enabled"), and NixOS handles the "how" automatically. This approach provides powerful benefits like reproducibility, atomic upgrades, and easy rollbacks, replacing ad-hoc scripts with a single, version-controllable source of truth.

There is no other way..

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@codemonkeymike Fedora Atomic version for the win, really.
Not only the upgrades are rollback but it's immutable> there get to know containers!
They can hack your container or a tool of it but not the host at all.

All tools are in their Podman under the hood container form named Toolbox ( an easy way to manage tools in a container with just 1 command)
As running all tools NOT exposed to internet in a container, for other tools THAT USE INTERNET CONNECTION or others you can take Flatpak > on fedora they are Sandboxed.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@tschenkel @vwestlife @codemonkeymike Dual boot a linux on it!
As base, if you want more install DistroBox and put another Distro Linux on it on top.
On this pc I use hypervisor to run my Linux with greatest part of SSD but others as refurbished iMac's are all Linux from boot.

[fasnix@fe.disroot.org]

@Metamere @thegardendude

Instaed of Ubuntu, check out Solus, which is pretty well maintained and doesn't need to hide.

I use it as my main distro since ~ a year and like it.

[swestfisher@social.themoto.network]

@codemonkeymike , after I retired a few years ago I switched my personal computers to Linux. I do still have one with Win 11 for a couple of programs that only work on it. I wish FreeBSD would get better laptop support, I've always been more comfortable in BSD, HP-UX, AIX, etc. than System V stuff.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@m1rk0 @codemonkeymike you are full of bloat and AI knows everything you do. That is the argument.

[desantis@mastodon.bida.im]

@thegardendude @codemonkeymike I work in research and a lot of new converts use either Ubuntu or Linux Mint. Personally, I use Fedora/Budgie, before that Fedora Gnome. As another has already mentioned, check and see if the distro has a “Live” version, meaning you can burn the ISO to portable storage and try the O.S. before committing.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@gunchleoc @andybrwn @codemonkeymike it's what people do not understand when I say dual boot.

[iriyan@kolektiva.social]

This is a false corporate apolitical propaganda dipole

MS vs IBM-windows (which is what Gnome/KDE-plasma/Qt is)

Those same multinational corporations hiding behind the totalitarianism of systemd are fighting against choice in FOSS, making it harder and harder for freedom to exist within #FOSS

In the latest attack, #Krita shifting to Qt6 dependencies is nearly impossible to build without systemd libraries and mechanisms

They are free to do so, yes, but it shows what their intentions are. IBM-windows vs MS ... and I refuse to even mention the other documented and convicted thieves of FOSS

@codemonkeymike

https://kolektiva.social/@iriyan/116300827983013679
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@tromo

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@Elizafox true but that's few and far between in my experience. But yes this does happen.

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@nukleos exactly! I've felt this for a while, but finally put words to it

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@candela I did a 32 bir challenge a couple years ago and did Debian 12 32bit and it was okay. But yeah. Now adays it's pretty much just antix

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@m1rk0 the full story makes windows look even worse. Trust me. I've worked with thousands of people over decades.

But if you're happy with windows. Awesome. I'm not here to convince people to switch.

[candela@mastodon.nl]

@codemonkeymike it's how it goes, even for Linux, that I think should be all around available for all old hardware. That is the point, to breathe new life in old hardware.

[numodular@c.im]

@Zeddiria I have similar concerns. I went from MX21.3 to MX25, and noticed more RAM usage. It makes a difference on an 8th gen laptop.

The zram option upon install for MX25, helped tho. More should know about this, because of RAM/hard drive gouging going on now, and more recent distros like MX25, have updated drivers that help even 8th gen puters.

[jakob_thoboell@kirche.social]

@candela I played arround with bunsenlabs, which is a lightweight distro based on Debian. @codemonkeymike

[candela@mastodon.nl]

@jakob_thoboell @codemonkeymike i’ll take a look at that. I never heard of bunsenlabs though

[zeddiria@mastodon.social]

@numodular 8gen = intel i5 8. gen?

That is around 8-9 years old, how much RAM they have is very different, there were a wide range from 2 up to 16G common when they were new, they might be upgraded up to 64GB depending a bit, which is a lot more than the current entry-level class so "it depends"

But people here are advertising that linux is bloody fast on 15-20 year old System like fist gen i5 or even Core2Duo system which are the predecessor to i5, often with 1-2 GB of RAM