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  3. Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

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  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

    Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

    AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

    The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

    Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

    #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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    #54

    @dbattistella Money is utility and the only legitimate value is shareholder return.

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    • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

      @EricBono Yes, but if you destroy the book, no one can accuse you of having copied it, or demand payment for it.

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      #55

      @dbattistella

      Right, right, I didn't mean to leave out the sheer criminality aspect. The incompetence isn't a symptom. It's a tool.

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      • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

        This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

        #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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        agreeable_landfall@mastodon.social
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        #56

        @dbattistella This picture doesn't make sense to me. If this is storage, why are all these boxes open? If this is processing, why are all these boxes open? None of them appear to be full.

        I would expect, if they are processing the books, that there would be most of them in storage, then some number would be open and being scanned. After the scanning, they are all just loose pages, so I would expect to see a discard bin somewhere, with not defined "book" in sight.

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        • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

          Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

          AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

          The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

          Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

          #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

          noiseician@mastodon.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #57

          @dbattistella yes and like so much other evil shit... we're letting them do it. #deathtoUSA

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          • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

            This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

            #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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            sophiesunshine@blahaj.zone
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            #58

            @dbattistella@mstdn.ca i'll never forgive these companies

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            • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

              Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

              AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

              The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

              Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

              #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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              #59

              @dbattistella Hmm, I feel like we've been warned about people who destroy important books before.

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              • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                #60

                @dbattistella Can't wait until we simply repurpose the book guillotines for use on the billionaires who paid for them.

                Irony!

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                • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                  Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                  AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                  The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                  Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                  #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                  #61

                  @dbattistella Everybody has already drawn the comparison to the book _Rainbows End_, right? It's weird to keep re-encountering SF novels this often IRL. Something something future unevenly distributed something something Torment Nexus.

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                  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                    Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                    AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                    The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                    Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                    #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                    #62

                    @dbattistella some rando with "but ai is useful" appearing in 3... 2... 1...

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                    • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                      Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                      AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                      The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                      Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                      #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                      #63

                      @dbattistella I would like to put something else under that blade.

                      I can't say what, but let's say the French had the right idea.

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                      • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                        This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

                        #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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                        gullevek@famichiki.jp
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                        #64

                        @dbattistella @imikotoba Ai erm LLMs destroy everything. Time for #ButlerianJihad

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                        • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                          Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                          AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                          The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                          Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                          #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                          alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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                          #65

                          @dbattistella
                          Stop feeding the machine.

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                          • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                            Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                            AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                            The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                            Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                            #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                            #66

                            @dbattistella Any book that has survived wars, fires and centuries should be digitised for the greater good.

                            If it's a generic font book shat out of machine, digitize and bin it as you would a CD.

                            Anthropic should be told to make these works freely available.

                            The past 100yrs of gatekeeping knowledge behind absurd paywalls in ivory towers is not a great model to the extent most academics I know just sail the high seas as basic.

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                            • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                              Anthropic spent billions of dollars to slice the spines off millions of books, including very rare ones.

                              AI companies are purchasing large quantities of used and rare books and scanning their contents to train LLMs. They then turn the originals to pulp.

                              The sum of human thought, digitized and shredded. Every book that gets scanned disappears from the physical world permanently.

                              Books that survived wars, fires, and centuries of handling are being shredded so an AI can learn to write a better marketing email.

                              #AI #Books #Culture #Civilization #Tech #LLMs

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                              staceycornelius@zeroes.ca
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                              #67

                              @dbattistella But is that email really better with AI? Because I'm climbing to the top of a hill with a flag that says it is not.

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                              • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

                                #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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                                #68

                                @dbattistella Until this I was thinking guillotines, but for the punishment to fit the crime it should be being burned at the stake.

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                                • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                  @driusan The laws never seem to apply to capitalists.

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                                  #69

                                  @dbattistella @driusan In capitalism, the laws exist to protect capitalists. That's it.

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                                  • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

                                    This is the magnificent library Anthropic amassed, before destroying it because it gave them a legal copyright loophole.

                                    #Anthropic #AI #Books #Culture #Tech #LLMs #Civilization

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                                    #70

                                    @dbattistella

                                    wouldn't it have been great if publishers SOLD ebooks, even at the price they charge for a printed book?

                                    but they do not. they license.

                                    And then buy each other.

                                    Living based on the rule of law, not the rule of licenses. I want that world.

                                    And it is causing all sorts of problems, and not just for libraries like the Internet Archive, but for authors etc etc.

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                                    • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                      @dbattistella
                                      Stop feeding the machine.

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                                      #71

                                      @alterelefant @dbattistella

                                      We were told not to feed the beast in the late 90's and early 2000's as it was obvious no good would come of it.

                                      So peeps decided to feed the corporate beast for the next two decades to the most extreme levels imaginable so it looked like Mr Creosote and could not take anymore.

                                      Seems better to say we should all feel sad for feeding the beast.

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                                      • sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog

                                        @dbattistella @driusan In capitalism, the laws exist to protect capitalists. That's it.

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                                        #72

                                        @sharpcheddargoblin @dbattistella @driusan
                                        Wilhoit: "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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                                        • bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB bigheadmode@social.linux.pizza

                                          @dbattistella Fact check: very likely.

                                          According to news.com.au -

                                          The slicing is "a video from Canada's ABTec Solutions demonstrates the process of cutting books' spines prior to scanning."

                                          The warehouse pic: "Court filings show a warehouse of books to be scanned by Anthropic. Picture: Washington Post"

                                          The original reporting seems to be from the great 404media, but it's paywalled.

                                          Technically, the books are scanned and "survive" on Anthropic data centers. But I highly doubt Anthropic or any "AI" company is going to try to resell, donate, etc. their digital copies, even having destroyed the original. So the world does lose a copy of the book without any gain for people who don't use Anthropic LLMs or IP.

                                          https://www.404media.co/ai-companies-are-buying-tons-of-old-books-because-theyre-free-of-ai-slop/

                                          https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/internet/ai-labs-buy-scan-shred-millions-of-rare-books/news-story/0c3b45a67093ab462a587a0348538ce9

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                                          #73

                                          @BigHeadMode
                                          Shades of "Rainbow's End"
                                          @dbattistella

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