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  • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

    I hate this timeline so much.

    d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @Flowermob Alas, it was only during "the Age of Enlightenment" when facts held some sort of place of pride. Now we live in "the Age of narcissists". It matters how big your audience is, and how compelling of an emotional appeal you can make, based on true-ish, passionate statements. It's just a bunch of so-called "Narcissistic shared fantasies" now, pretty much everyone wandering and bumbling - precisely like medieval buffoons - into various toxic, cult-like ideologies

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    • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

      I hate this timeline so much.

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      #10

      @Flowermob Random guys on the internet “my opinion is right” irrespective of any feedback or fact.
      This is the drivel AI is trained on and we are all being cajoled or enticed to invite it into our lives. Alongside all the other spy tech (anything termed ‘smart’) already baked into everything.
      The dystopian novelists warned us…

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      • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

        I hate this timeline so much.

        askpippa@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @Flowermob Sometimes it works -- at least a little. I've had online discussions where I've presented facts which lead to several encouraging exchanges. Being able to explain things helps too. Don't just say "it's X!" -- link to an excellent source that explains it. You know you've made a difference if they start asking questions. It's super important to keep a neutral and friendly tone. And also know when to quit if the fact-approach doesn't show any promise.

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        • _r@donotsta.re_ _r@donotsta.re
          @Flowermob has anyone ever considered that this person is lying btw?
          hunterz@mastodon.sdf.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @_r @Flowermob yeah this seems like too perfect of a setup

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          • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

            I hate this timeline so much.

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            #13

            @Flowermob The take away of this is that science works, and that doesn't change how people think.

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            • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

              I hate this timeline so much.

              shironeko@fedi.tesaguri.clubS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #14
              @Flowermob it would have created a contradiction otherwise, this guy just saved the universe.
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              • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                I hate this timeline so much.

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                #15

                @Flowermob People *do* change their minds when you show them facts -- but not the person you're arguing with. When I'm arguing, I'm arguing for the sake of the audience, those who have no oar in either boat and can be persuaded to either side. i already realize that for example a hardcore Notsee is not going to change his mind about what should be done with untermenschen. I argue for the sake of keeping gullible kids from adopting the same horrifying ideology, not to convince him of anything.

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                • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                  I hate this timeline so much.

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                  caileangallimore@mastodon.social
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                  #16

                  @Flowermob
                  What is "True" depends on who you talked to.
                  Facts, not so much.

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                  • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                    I hate this timeline so much.

                    sanguish@iosdev.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @Flowermob I think the datte must be wrong by about 10 years on the quote

                    😭

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                    • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                      I hate this timeline so much.

                      pizzademon@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @Flowermob

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                      • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                        I hate this timeline so much.

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                        #19

                        @Flowermob I think planting questions may be more effective than facts. If they grow, they can trigger the thrill of discovery.

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                        • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                          I hate this timeline so much.

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                          #20

                          @Flowermob Alternative facts sgain?

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                          • flowermob@mastodon.socialF flowermob@mastodon.social

                            I hate this timeline so much.

                            ewaningvald@framapiaf.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            #alt4you #alt4u

                            Screenshot of a tweet posted by Catherine na Nollag @cafernblue on the 10th of december 2019
                            It reads : I still think my favorite thing that's ever happened to me on the internet is the Time a guy said "people change their mindq when you show them facts" and I said *actually studies show that's nor true" and linked TWO (two written in capslock) sources and he said "yeah well I still thinks it works"

                            The screenshots shows 9164 retweets and 46.8 likes

                            https://mastodon.social/@Flowermob/116822802024289049

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                            • iveyline@mastodon.nzI iveyline@mastodon.nz

                              @Flowermob Alternative facts sgain?

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                              #22

                              @Iveyline What?

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