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"On the acceptance of GenAI"https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    "On the acceptance of GenAI"
    https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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    #41

    @tante entirely too vague; you'd be better off explaining what "big tech's vision for the world" is, and how they aid ICE and the IDF, and the U.S. military, and their tech is involved in every recent atrocity, like killing thousands of Iranians, and the ongoing genocide in Palestine...these bullet points sugar coat reality too much

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    • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

      @ai6yr @tante it seems pretty similar doesn't it? Taking what you want from a website, regardless of the host's intentions?

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      #42

      @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante no. copyright law is bullshit. the problem is power. like in every situation. poor people stealing from the rich: cool. rich people stealing from the poor: fucked.

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      • mrbase@phpc.socialM mrbase@phpc.social

        @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante I think most running an adblocker is doing so to block data brokers, not the ad itself. Privacy is as much part of the equation here as the actual ad.

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        #43

        @mrbase @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante and considering organizations like ICE are using ads to install spyware on people's phones now, adblockers are absolutely necessary for everyone. i am actually mad at anyone who's not using an adblocker.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          "On the acceptance of GenAI"
          https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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          #44

          @tante I'd probably add ones for - "I accept GenAI may scramble my mind and induce psychosis"
          - "I accept that I am accepting the misinformation and disinformation produced by these tools"
          - "I accept that I am contributing to this production"

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            "On the acceptance of GenAI"
            https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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            #45

            @tante this implies that there are only US American AI companies. There are also EU AI companies which are arguably better.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              "On the acceptance of GenAI"
              https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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              #46

              @tante good god the replies. A lot of people holding their hands tightly over their eyes.

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              • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

                @tante

                AI in the modern age is not going away. You shouldn't be shamed for using it, and at this point you should expect it.

                Even when the bubble goes pop we are still going to have AI in some form. AI is a useful tool for many people, and it's great when you self host it.

                Also, most things AI "steals" isn't really stealing if it's free and public on the internet.

                Only thing I really can agree with is environment impacts. At this point though we muck up the environment so much with plastics, overusage of gas, mass deforestation, etc that I don't know how big of an impact that really has. Ideally we would use green forms of energy for everything, and new tech innovation would reduce the absurd amounts of power required to run these supercomputers. Hopefully the ARM architecture is that light in the dark.

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                #47

                @Synthyx@vivaldi.net @tante@tldr.nettime.org

                Also, most things AI “steals” isn’t really stealing if it’s free and public on the internet.

                That’s not even remotely how copyright works

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                • smilingdemon@mastodon.artS smilingdemon@mastodon.art

                  @tante good god the replies. A lot of people holding their hands tightly over their eyes.

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                  #48

                  @smilingdemon yeah. I mean sure, you can ignore a lot of facts to keep doing what you are already doing but don't try to claim your being ethical or anything.

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                  • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

                    @crazyeddie @tante GenAI as in Generative AI, not Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).

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                    #49

                    @orange_lux both are arbitrary marketing terms

                    @crazyeddie @tante

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                    • 3fingers@blorbo.social3 3fingers@blorbo.social

                      @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante no. copyright law is bullshit. the problem is power. like in every situation. poor people stealing from the rich: cool. rich people stealing from the poor: fucked.

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                      #50

                      @3Fingers @ai6yr @tante I definitely got that vibe already, that many on Mastodon, and to a lesser extent Bluesky, approach AI as a class issue.

                      Seems strange, both because it's what AI has been building towards for the last 70 years. No surprises here that the first command would be "ok, read everything."

                      But also because Moore's law applies. All of this will be local and distributed over time.

                      We're actually quite lucky that there are no binding patents or copyrights on AI.

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                      • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                        @3Fingers @ai6yr @tante I definitely got that vibe already, that many on Mastodon, and to a lesser extent Bluesky, approach AI as a class issue.

                        Seems strange, both because it's what AI has been building towards for the last 70 years. No surprises here that the first command would be "ok, read everything."

                        But also because Moore's law applies. All of this will be local and distributed over time.

                        We're actually quite lucky that there are no binding patents or copyrights on AI.

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                        #51

                        @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante all technology benefits the rich over the poor. that's just an unavoidable universal fact. AI is currently destroying the world by empowering the U.S. military and various billionaire fascists who are oppressing all of us.

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                        • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

                          @ai6yr @tante

                          Honestly it was the "voluntary downsize" comment that got me.

                          Nobody wants to follow my hot takes and brilliant insights? Clearly, then, Mastodon must be what's pushing them away.

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                          #52

                          @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante fwiw

                          https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116351978261689682

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                          • downey@floss.socialD downey@floss.social

                            @orange_lux both are arbitrary marketing terms

                            @crazyeddie @tante

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                            #53

                            @downey @crazyeddie @tante everything is an arbitrary marketing term

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                            • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                              @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante fwiw

                              https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116351978261689682

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                              #54

                              @buckfiftyseven @jrconlin @tante Aww, poor AI influencer!

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                              • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                @buckfiftyseven @jrconlin @tante Aww, poor AI influencer!

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                                #55

                                @ai6yr @jrconlin @tante here's the thing, what if he's not?

                                What if he's a mainstream technology observer, and what if Mastodon is in the process of divorcing themselves from the mainstream?

                                That's where I'm putting my bet for what it's worth.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  "On the acceptance of GenAI"
                                  https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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                                  #56

                                  @tante [ ] I accept that the continuing scraping of the internet is a strain on service providers, even ones that don’t want to participate

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                                    #57

                                    @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante If Mastodon was in any kind of growth phase I think that might be a stronger argument.

                                    But if the platform is shrinking at the same time as people are putting out purity requirements, maybe not.

                                    The top post I replied to is obviously a purity test.

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                                    • crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange

                                      @Epic_Null @tante

                                      And yes, that is a big issue with the SaaS token vendors. Claude, OpenAI, MS, and the rest do use whatever user data they can get. I am not arguing their horrific behavior.

                                      I'm talking about locally running Qwen, or Deepseek, or other FLOSS models.

                                      That local LLM running on my machine only sees and uses data I provide. And a control-c in the relevant console window kills the LLM.

                                      What folks do not realize is this is #Leibniz's ultimate dream, of being able to do #calculus with words, sentences, and more. He tried to do single word-vectors, but even that had to wait for Word2Vec in 2012.

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                                      #58

                                      @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante “local” models are as reliant on illegal data acquisition, because they depend on the larger mainstream models to reach any level of tolerable performance. Whether it’s for training, fine tuning, distillation, or another method, that dependency means anything that goes into the development of the nonlocal model is also a requirement for the development of the local versions.

                                      Deepseek and Qwen are no exception.

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        @crankylinuxuser FLOSS Models (which are only freeware) fulfill most of those boxes. Trained on stolen data, massaged by people in global majority countries, trained in environmentally harmful data centers, outsourcing skills to the freeware product a company dumped on me, using a tool that is imbued and trained for how big tech wants to see the world, and effort could have gone to something meaningful. So yeah nope.

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                                        #59

                                        @tante @crankylinuxuser
                                        And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                                        • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                                          @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante If Mastodon was in any kind of growth phase I think that might be a stronger argument.

                                          But if the platform is shrinking at the same time as people are putting out purity requirements, maybe not.

                                          The top post I replied to is obviously a purity test.

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                                          #60

                                          @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                          I know, right? How will Mastodon ever be profitable and return positive value for it's shareholders.

                                          ( Sorry, I promise I'll stop laughing soon. )

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