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  • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

    This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

    Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

    An absurd design decision imo

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    #6

    @aesthr Hmm, doesn't seem to be the case with Excel 2019 at least I had two windows with two different files open, and undo redo is localised to each of them.

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    • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

      This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

      Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

      An absurd design decision imo

      matoakit@beach.cityM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @aesthr I use excel daily, and I hate this "Feature".

      I only want to modify the excel in the active screen, if it does anything else it's wrong.

      This site has some options for work arounds, but the best one the registry edit can't be done on corporate machines.
      https://spreadsheetplanet.com/open-multiple-instances-excel/

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      • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

        This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

        Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

        An absurd design decision imo

        greenskyoverme@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @aesthr oh gods

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        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

          This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

          Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

          An absurd design decision imo

          frumble@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @aesthr And auto-save is on by default, right?

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          • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

            This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

            Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

            An absurd design decision imo

            mossman@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @aesthr oh I'm well aware of this... believe me!

            (in the same vein, Word managed to eat a day's work updating my final thesis - including backup copies I was making *and even the original which I had clicked to save* not once, not twice, but three times! That's when I pivoted to learning LaTeX.

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            • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

              @aesthr oh I'm well aware of this... believe me!

              (in the same vein, Word managed to eat a day's work updating my final thesis - including backup copies I was making *and even the original which I had clicked to save* not once, not twice, but three times! That's when I pivoted to learning LaTeX.

              kayla@gts.eilhart.czK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @mossman Skip LaTex and try Typst (believe me, my journey started with czechoslovakian Text602 in the early nineties, my quest for document editing took me through a lot 😅 )

              @aesthr

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              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                An absurd design decision imo

                ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @aesthr
                it has glo-

                and the economy-

                at this point just uninvent computers outside of science and weird nerds

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                • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                  This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                  Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                  An absurd design decision imo

                  matthewpcooke@techhub.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @aesthr Excel used to have a multiple document interface (MDI) When undo redo was rolled out, it was visually and logically associated with the single application and applied to all of the multiple documents open within the application. So visually, it was more logical back then that you would expect undo to be at the application level as all open docs were visually in the one app. There was some logic to supporting undo/redo at the application level, to be able to cleanly undo changes which imported or linked data across multiple docs. But visually, when they changed to an SDI it was very unobvious that that this is how undo would work and although they changed to the SDI with a menu per doc they left the single undo-redo stack implementation from the MDI. Arguments would’ve been backwards compatibility and being able to cleanly undo changes that spanned documents.

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                  • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                    This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                    Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                    An absurd design decision imo

                    miari@social.mochi.academyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @aesthr oh yes I have experienced that numerous times (I work with Excel a lot)

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                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                      @aesthr
                      it has glo-

                      and the economy-

                      at this point just uninvent computers outside of science and weird nerds

                      6@possum.city6 This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @ozzelot@mstdn.social @aesthr@wandering.shop this would fix everything for sure

                      brotherhood of steel has entered the chat
                      oh no

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                      • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                        This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                        Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                        An absurd design decision imo

                        krnlg@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @aesthr
                        Yeah I've had annoying encounters with that feature a few times and it's never felt like it should work like that. Wild choice.

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                        • matthewpcooke@techhub.socialM matthewpcooke@techhub.social

                          @aesthr Excel used to have a multiple document interface (MDI) When undo redo was rolled out, it was visually and logically associated with the single application and applied to all of the multiple documents open within the application. So visually, it was more logical back then that you would expect undo to be at the application level as all open docs were visually in the one app. There was some logic to supporting undo/redo at the application level, to be able to cleanly undo changes which imported or linked data across multiple docs. But visually, when they changed to an SDI it was very unobvious that that this is how undo would work and although they changed to the SDI with a menu per doc they left the single undo-redo stack implementation from the MDI. Arguments would’ve been backwards compatibility and being able to cleanly undo changes that spanned documents.

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                          #17

                          @MatthewPCooke @aesthr Excel is still plagued by the fact it was that stupid MDI interface when it started. It will make the illusion of multiple windows if you open multiple documents, but if you move one of those windows, all the others will move to the same location, so if you want two spreadsheets side by side you have to manually open two copies of Excel.

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                          • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                            This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                            Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                            An absurd design decision imo

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                            #18

                            @aesthr

                            Agreed. My programming editor (I use vi, BTW!) also has global undo, but on a per-file basis. So if I keep hitting undo or ctrl-Z, then it will wind back changes to this file only. Thankfully!

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                            • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                              This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                              Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                              An absurd design decision imo

                              icewolf@masto.brightfur.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @aesthr what the... what th... what!!

                              *gives Microsoft an extremely dirty look*

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                              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                An absurd design decision imo

                                lexyeen@plush.cityL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                @aesthr what the

                                nO

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                                • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                  This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                  Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                  An absurd design decision imo

                                  lyncia@social.pixie.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @aesthr in what world would you need this feature

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                                  • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                    This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                    Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                    An absurd design decision imo

                                    floppyplopper@todon.nlF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @aesthr
                                    maybe we should "ctrl-Z" MicroSoft right 😩

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                                    • kayla@gts.eilhart.czK kayla@gts.eilhart.cz

                                      @mossman Skip LaTex and try Typst (believe me, my journey started with czechoslovakian Text602 in the early nineties, my quest for document editing took me through a lot 😅 )

                                      @aesthr

                                      aesthr@wandering.shopA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @kayla I tried typst for scientific writing and it's just not there yet. My LaTeX boilerplate isn't complex at all but it felt like a monumental task to replicate the output of that in typst

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                                      • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                        This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                        Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                        An absurd design decision imo

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                                        #24

                                        @aesthr What the actual f???

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                                        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                          This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                          Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                          An absurd design decision imo

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                                          #25

                                          @aesthr casual reminder, ms office is not a thing anymore. they've killed the brand. it's now "microsoft copilot" or some bullshit like that.

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