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  • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

    @andre123
    It seems like the conclusion they took is "American fashtech is bad solely because it is American"
    @_elena @EUCommission

    preuk@framapiaf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #19

    @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission
    That's sad how our EU leaders want to mimic US instead of offering another model. "We need tech billionaires". "We need out own hegemonic centralized platforms". "We need our own global surveillance solution".

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

      No further comment necessary.

      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

      jelte@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @_elena @EUCommission The passport part sounds like it violates Dutch privacy law https://www.autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/themas/identificatie/paspoort-en-identiteitskaart/voor-organisaties-regels-voor-vaststellen-identiteit

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

        No further comment necessary.

        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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        #21

        @_elena @EUCommission I'm a senior, very experienced IT devops: I was informed the other day that public institutions are now paying for workshops held by Microsoft representatives on "how to implement souvereign IT - with Windows".

        Eh... 🙄 ?

        If I'd be one of the admins there, I'd stand up and call #bullshit

        @ anyone reading this: we are paying for this in high numbers daily. That money is missing where actually needed.

        #PublicMoneyPublicCode #FOSS

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        • preuk@framapiaf.orgP preuk@framapiaf.org

          @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission
          That's sad how our EU leaders want to mimic US instead of offering another model. "We need tech billionaires". "We need out own hegemonic centralized platforms". "We need our own global surveillance solution".

          andre123@snowfan.itA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @Preuk @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission

          It's like they are still playing the Great Game like in the XIX century... we are just in a difficult situation right now, but the mindset looks very similar, we want our share of dominance.... sad....very sad....I hope we can change this, at least in Europe.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

            @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

            W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

            No further comment necessary.

            Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

            #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

            eelcoa@mastodon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            @_elena @EUCommission

            WTF!

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

              @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

              W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

              No further comment necessary.

              Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

              #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

              kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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              kobold@orthographieanarchist.de
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              #24

              @_elena @EUCommission

              #ClownShow

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                No further comment necessary.

                Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                elala@nrw.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #25

                @_elena
                External "consultants" NEED to know where your house lives, because otherwise the universe will implode.☝️😎
                @EUCommission

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                  @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                  W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                  No further comment necessary.

                  Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                  #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                  #26

                  @_elena @EUCommission but... but it's all for our goods and for protecting our kids... and stuff

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                    No further comment necessary.

                    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                    hans_j@kanoa.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    hans_j@kanoa.de
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                    #27

                    @_elena
                    No.
                    @EUCommission

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                      No further comment necessary.

                      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                      karmalakas@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      karmalakas@mastodon.social
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                      #28

                      @_elena @EUCommission

                      Ping @digitaleu

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                        No further comment necessary.

                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                        kerplunk@mastodon.scot
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                        #29

                        @_elena @EUCommission

                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                        Go to googles or apples tracker store and download the app.

                        Does the W stand for Wankers?

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                          No further comment necessary.

                          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                          gilgwath@social.tchncs.de
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                          #30

                          @_elena @EUCommission So to access this "open" space we need to download an application from the stores from the selfsame companies you criticised for having a gatekeeper roles? AND these are the companies we want to become more independent off. Hypocritical the last degree. Hard to believe that this actually about freedom and sovereignty, and not about building yet another surveillance and censorship apparatus. Just "Under EU controll".

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                          • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                            @andre123
                            It seems like the conclusion they took is "American fashtech is bad solely because it is American"
                            @_elena @EUCommission

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                            #31

                            @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission

                            The App Store and Play Store ARE American, so if that's their conclusion, they failed to understand the question.

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                            • borup@masto.hackers.townB borup@masto.hackers.town

                              @_elena IT skills have never been strong among politicians.
                              They tend to not understand the issues, and are thus doomed to take the wrong decisions every time.

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                              #32

                              @borup @_elena and even if they consult with you: They nod, pretend to understand and still take the wrong fork in the road.

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                              • borup@masto.hackers.townB borup@masto.hackers.town

                                @_elena IT skills have never been strong among politicians.
                                They tend to not understand the issues, and are thus doomed to take the wrong decisions every time.

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                                utf_7@mastodon.social
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                                #33

                                @borup @_elena

                                it is okay to known't things. it is also somehow okay not to ask because often you dont know what to ask or that you should ask.

                                but you are an idiot if you dont listen to experts afterwards, because then you know better.

                                further you are a top tier piece of shit if your ego is too high to admit you did wrong and that you then fight for your wrong decision because you tell yourself you know better

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                                • bjoern@social.sengotta.netB bjoern@social.sengotta.net

                                  @LePertti maybe they use Peter Thiel's Persona in the Background 😉 @_elena @EUCommission

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                                  #34

                                  @bjoern do you have any proof of this?

                                  @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                    No further comment necessary.

                                    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                                    bladecoder@androiddev.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #35

                                    @_elena @EUCommission I don't even understand how this thing works. They claim to have no access to the user's identity data and that it stays local on the device. So why do they need you to scan your passport while they are countless ways to authenticate anonymously?
                                    In a press report they say that the goal is to confirm you're humain without revealing who you are, yet in the very next sentence they say that they encourage a culture where users engage under their real names, WTF?

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                                    • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                                      @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission

                                      The App Store and Play Store ARE American, so if that's their conclusion, they failed to understand the question.

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                                      #36

                                      @leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission that's true, but also I don't think they really want (can) break with USA... as long as Trump is slightly more reasonable than usual they will accept whatever and go on without anything serious to differentiate EU. At least it looks like this to me right now.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                        No further comment necessary.

                                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                        #37

                                        @_elena @EUCommission
                                        Buuhhh!!! 👎
                                        #buuhhh

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                          No further comment necessary.

                                          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                          #38

                                          Interesting move toward digital sovereignty. It will be interesting to see how identity verification shapes user trust and platform adoption in Europe 👀

                                          @_elena @EUCommission

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