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  • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

    #OpenStreetMap #OSM #FOSS #OSS

    I have just started using OSM, so I may be in error here , but in regard to features in the Boston area

    There is a bike path called the northern strand bikeway, that runs from Everett to Lynn, and what is shown on the map doesn't seem to jibe with how the bikeway is described on what seems to be the project home page
    https://biketothesea.org/map/

    also the tabs used for the MBTA subway stops don't appear consistent, and the icon used for subway stops is to hard to see - really odd that OSM by default doesn't highlight subways and commuter rails more

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    @failedLyndonLaRouchite
    Try @openrailwaymap
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    • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

      #OpenStreetMap #OSM #FOSS #OSS

      I have just started using OSM, so I may be in error here , but in regard to features in the Boston area

      There is a bike path called the northern strand bikeway, that runs from Everett to Lynn, and what is shown on the map doesn't seem to jibe with how the bikeway is described on what seems to be the project home page
      https://biketothesea.org/map/

      also the tabs used for the MBTA subway stops don't appear consistent, and the icon used for subway stops is to hard to see - really odd that OSM by default doesn't highlight subways and commuter rails more

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      @failedLyndonLaRouchite In what way do you use openstreetmap?

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      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

        #OpenStreetMap #OSM #FOSS #OSS

        I have just started using OSM, so I may be in error here , but in regard to features in the Boston area

        There is a bike path called the northern strand bikeway, that runs from Everett to Lynn, and what is shown on the map doesn't seem to jibe with how the bikeway is described on what seems to be the project home page
        https://biketothesea.org/map/

        also the tabs used for the MBTA subway stops don't appear consistent, and the icon used for subway stops is to hard to see - really odd that OSM by default doesn't highlight subways and commuter rails more

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        @failedLyndonLaRouchite Btw - if there are errors in #openstreetmap, you could fix them. You can ask to have changes reviewed by experienced mappers if you want. 😉

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        • grischard@en.osm.townG grischard@en.osm.town

          @failedLyndonLaRouchite what do you mean by tabs? Did you see the dedicated transport layers?

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          failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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          @grischard sorry, I meant to write "tabs"

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          • thomas@friendica.tomforge.deT thomas@friendica.tomforge.de
            @failedLyndonLaRouchite
            Try @openrailwaymap
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            failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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            @thomas @openrailwaymap

            I just tried it
            It has some omissions
            like in the map below, I know for a fact that there is a subway stop called Savin Hill where the red X is
            but this isn't shown correctly - the "savin hill" is the end of the station, a long way from the main entrance/exit

            this shows an area about 200meter on a side, roughly
            in the 2nd box, about 2km on a side, the orange line and stations are clearly visible, while the red line is obscure at best

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            • thomas@friendica.tomforge.deT thomas@friendica.tomforge.de
              @failedLyndonLaRouchite
              Try @openrailwaymap
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              failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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              @thomas @openrailwaymap

              Preamble:
              OSM/ORM are great
              but . .

              IMO - just me - ORW has all the strenghts and weaknesses of OSM

              it is very detailed, showing all sorts of info such as guage

              it is very detailed, so that the things most people need - a visual summary of the MBTA subway lines - is lost in a cloud of stuff that only a very few people need, like guage (only roughly 0.001% of users need things like guage; 90% of users need a quick visual of where the subways are, or, seperately, the commuter rail system

              and unless things are tagged consistently, there is no easy way for a person like me to pull out the features I want (there is a progam, overpass turbo, that allows you to build queries to highlight things in OSM, but it is way way to cumbersome for people like me

              I guess my feeling is that today, OSM is like Linux in say 2000
              a great thing but in many ways built only for nerds
              🙂

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              • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                @failedLyndonLaRouchite Btw - if there are errors in #openstreetmap, you could fix them. You can ask to have changes reviewed by experienced mappers if you want. 😉

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                failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                @anderslund

                my view right now (as of today)

                OSM is truly great, but it is like Linux in say 2000; something that in most cases is built by and for nerds

                someone kindly pointed out overpassturbo, which lets you highlight certain features, and overpass is a program for nerds only (sorry)

                Far as I can tell for Boston, OSM does a great job if there is a database to pull in , such as the property database maintained by each city in the boston area

                when it comes to things like a good clear visual style, no, it is to cluttered and also there are not enough volunteers to say add restaurants, etc

                so at the moment like Linux in 2000; great for nerds

                🙂

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                • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                  @anderslund

                  my view right now (as of today)

                  OSM is truly great, but it is like Linux in say 2000; something that in most cases is built by and for nerds

                  someone kindly pointed out overpassturbo, which lets you highlight certain features, and overpass is a program for nerds only (sorry)

                  Far as I can tell for Boston, OSM does a great job if there is a database to pull in , such as the property database maintained by each city in the boston area

                  when it comes to things like a good clear visual style, no, it is to cluttered and also there are not enough volunteers to say add restaurants, etc

                  so at the moment like Linux in 2000; great for nerds

                  🙂

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                  @failedLyndonLaRouchite Try these: osmapp.org. If you click the layers button bottom right, there is a "bike" layer.
                  on osm.org there are two different bike charts, though not vector (like osmapp.org).

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                  • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                    @failedLyndonLaRouchite Try these: osmapp.org. If you click the layers button bottom right, there is a "bike" layer.
                    on osm.org there are two different bike charts, though not vector (like osmapp.org).

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                    failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                    @anderslund

                    wow !!!!!
                    that is so good !!

                    thanks

                    this is another parallel to early days of Linux: there are 100 different versions of OSM

                    🙂

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                    • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                      @anderslund

                      wow !!!!!
                      that is so good !!

                      thanks

                      this is another parallel to early days of Linux: there are 100 different versions of OSM

                      🙂

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                      @failedLyndonLaRouchite OSM is like wikipedia of maps. Everyone can contribute. And the data are open, we are encouraged to use them in any way we can think of.
                      Many, many companies use OSM for their maps, as does media - allmost any map in danish media is build on som data, using open source tools.
                      Look at my profile for some indication of what I play with: the richest vector map style I can build on openmaptiles tiles from openfreemap.org.

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