_________ Fediverse platforms should use a real names policy.
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_________ Fediverse platforms should use a real names policy.
@evan Real name policies are a good way to mitigate certain kinds of abuse but ultimately they tend to also get used for top-down abuse.
I've been penciling out some distributed reputation stuff that could solve this problem without becoming a privacy/surveillance thing. I plan to try implementing it sometime after I actually finally launch my app. FEP work to follow if I can suss that out.
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_________ Fediverse platforms should use a real names policy.
By “platform” do you mean the software that an instance runs or the instance itself?
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_________ Fediverse platforms should use a real names policy.
@evan I'm few tending towards none. As long as we have governments willing to abuse our ID to surveil us and our "legal names" are administered by those governments, I would prefer not. The second reason is that policies like these reinforce a long domestication process driven by states (for lots of wrong reasons) where "real names" and "legal names" are treated synonymously. But fact is, most places around the world, people have had several real names depending on context.
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@evan I'm few tending towards none. As long as we have governments willing to abuse our ID to surveil us and our "legal names" are administered by those governments, I would prefer not. The second reason is that policies like these reinforce a long domestication process driven by states (for lots of wrong reasons) where "real names" and "legal names" are treated synonymously. But fact is, most places around the world, people have had several real names depending on context.
@evan My ideal scenario would be that the fediverse reinforces a different story where we acknowledge that people can have different names, just like they can have different identities depending on different contexts. Artists have had artist names, freedom figthers have nom de guerres, artisans have "artisanal names" (Smith, Butcher, Gardener, Potter etc). Where I come from, most people in my town have several names, of which one of them is always where they live (area or house)
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By “platform” do you mean the software that an instance runs or the instance itself?
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_________ Fediverse platforms should use a real names policy.
@evan how do you define "real". My name here has been my online moniker since at least 2003. I had another before this one (back in CompuServe days). Other than a specific instance where my legal name online is a matter of public record I have never used my legal name online for a variety of reasons. The most basic is that I grew up with an appreciation of privacy that that I believe in to this day. However I also consider my current moniker as "real" as my legal name.
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@evan how do you define "real". My name here has been my online moniker since at least 2003. I had another before this one (back in CompuServe days). Other than a specific instance where my legal name online is a matter of public record I have never used my legal name online for a variety of reasons. The most basic is that I grew up with an appreciation of privacy that that I believe in to this day. However I also consider my current moniker as "real" as my legal name.
@lakelady I'd suggest looking over the linked Wikipedia page, which covers the issue of what "real names" have meant for different platforms at different times.
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@evan Real name policies are a good way to mitigate certain kinds of abuse but ultimately they tend to also get used for top-down abuse.
I've been penciling out some distributed reputation stuff that could solve this problem without becoming a privacy/surveillance thing. I plan to try implementing it sometime after I actually finally launch my app. FEP work to follow if I can suss that out.
squinky@teh.entar.net sign me up for something like this! A distributed reputation system sounds interesting to play around with.
cue cries about centralization… except they won’t be if you can choose which reputation servers to subscribe to
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@julian I think I have some pretty great solutions to all of this! But I can't really document any of it until the other dev work on my app stabilizes a little bit.
It's great to hear there would be support for the idea, at least in principle. I'll probably ping you about it once I have something written out about it, if that sounds good.
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@julian I think I have some pretty great solutions to all of this! But I can't really document any of it until the other dev work on my app stabilizes a little bit.
It's great to hear there would be support for the idea, at least in principle. I'll probably ping you about it once I have something written out about it, if that sounds good.
squinky@teh.entar.net of course, please keep me in the loop. It sounds like something that could be controversial but have interesting implications for Trust and Safety (cc thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
