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  • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

    Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

    I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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    #2

    @pluralistic Huge OpenSource fans airlines, typically. 🦊

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    • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

      Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

      I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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      #3

      @pluralistic Yes, we've seen this. Also, the price sometimes goes up if, logged in, you leave and come back later!

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      • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

        Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

        I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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        #4

        @pluralistic maybe they got a deal with the other platform where you get extra discount?

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        • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

          @pluralistic maybe they got a deal with the other platform where you get extra discount?

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          #5

          @energisch_ I pasted the URL with its identifiers from Firefox to Chromium, so as far as the Chromium window (where I was logged into my Air Canada account) knew, I was being referred there by Google Flights, same as the Firefox window (where I wasn't logged in). Firefox was about 25% cheaper.

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          • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

            Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

            I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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            #6

            @pluralistic searching for holiday flights yesterday, KLM offered to "hold this price" for me for the low low cost of €180

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            • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

              @energisch_ I pasted the URL with its identifiers from Firefox to Chromium, so as far as the Chromium window (where I was logged into my Air Canada account) knew, I was being referred there by Google Flights, same as the Firefox window (where I wasn't logged in). Firefox was about 25% cheaper.

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              #7

              @pluralistic would be interesting how AirCanada can explain this - maybe they have a list of people that have to pay more, since logged in your id was known.

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              • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

                I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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                #8

                @pluralistic

                A coworker in sales told me that he always uses private mode to shop for flights/travel. Something to do with cookies talking to each other that ratchets up the prices.

                sposadelvento@mastodon.unoS ottaross@mastodon.socialO mossman@social.vivaldi.netM bovaz@misskey.socialB mdione@en.osm.townM 6 Replies Last reply
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                • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                  @pluralistic would be interesting how AirCanada can explain this - maybe they have a list of people that have to pay more, since logged in your id was known.

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                  #9

                  @energisch_ it's because I'm a frequent flier, so they assume they already have my business and can cheat me without losing it.

                  ehay2k@mastodon.socialE nimbius666@comp.lain.laN realhobberman@mstdn.caR 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                    Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

                    I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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                    @pluralistic Somebody told me once to use library computers to escape airlines’ maximum-possible-pricing algorithm, since it is essentially impossible for them to perform any sort of tracking or identifying there.

                    I haven’t tested this but it feels like a good idea?

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                    • angela_underscore@mstdn.caA angela_underscore@mstdn.ca

                      @pluralistic

                      A coworker in sales told me that he always uses private mode to shop for flights/travel. Something to do with cookies talking to each other that ratchets up the prices.

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                      #11

                      @angela_underscore @pluralistic
                      me too.

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                      • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                        @energisch_ it's because I'm a frequent flier, so they assume they already have my business and can cheat me without losing it.

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                        #12

                        @pluralistic @energisch_

                        Yet another level of #enshittification :

                        Provide customer loyalty benefits to help secure your very best customers, then turn the tables and screw them for that very same loyalty.

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                        • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                          @energisch_ it's because I'm a frequent flier, so they assume they already have my business and can cheat me without losing it.

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                          #13
                          @pluralistic @energisch_ luftansa did the same thing to me last year.. Use chrome and get hit with $260 more expensive ticket. Firefox? Didn't happen.

                          Nothing like good ole surveillance capitalism to really make summer vacation.😒
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                          • randulo@mastodon.socialR randulo@mastodon.social

                            @pluralistic Yes, we've seen this. Also, the price sometimes goes up if, logged in, you leave and come back later!

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                            #14

                            @randulo @pluralistic yes same!

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                            • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                              Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

                              I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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                              @pluralistic loyalty is punishable.

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                              • angela_underscore@mstdn.caA angela_underscore@mstdn.ca

                                @pluralistic

                                A coworker in sales told me that he always uses private mode to shop for flights/travel. Something to do with cookies talking to each other that ratchets up the prices.

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                                #16

                                @angela_underscore @pluralistic same! They want to ramp up prices with each check you do, creating pressure to "buy now" because you see the price steadily climbing.

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                                • tstruthers@ioc.exchangeT tstruthers@ioc.exchange

                                  @pluralistic searching for holiday flights yesterday, KLM offered to "hold this price" for me for the low low cost of €180

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                                  #17

                                  @tstruthers
                                  How much was the flight???!?!

                                  @pluralistic

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                                  • ehushagen@cosocial.caE ehushagen@cosocial.ca

                                    @pluralistic Somebody told me once to use library computers to escape airlines’ maximum-possible-pricing algorithm, since it is essentially impossible for them to perform any sort of tracking or identifying there.

                                    I haven’t tested this but it feels like a good idea?

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                                    #18

                                    @ehushagen
                                    I think they also take into account how expensive the device you're using is, for example high end iphone users will pay more than the users of a dirt cheap offbrand phone. I imagine library computers are not that new in general either.

                                    @pluralistic

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                                    • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                                      Well, this is cute. I looked up an #AirCanada flight in Firefox and then pasted the URL into a Chromium window where I was logged into my Aeroplan Super-Elite account. Air Canada added $300 to the flight price when I tried to load it from a logged-in browser. Hell of a customer loyalty perk!

                                      I bought the ticket in my non-logged-in window, then added my FF number to it.

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                                      #19

                                      @pluralistic I've had an onlineshop showing a higher price for a product when using search, and a lower one when using list filtering. Dark patterns everywhere. https://cweiske.de/tagebuch/computeruniverse-doppelprodukt.htm

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                                      • mcslibinas@mastodon.socialM mcslibinas@mastodon.social

                                        @pluralistic loyalty is punishable.

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                                        #20

                                        @mcSlibinas @pluralistic shopping without a loyalty card at a big box pharmacy or grocery store often dramatically increases the price of many items, sometimes even double the price!

                                        I miss the old style bar code loyalty cards where no Personally Identifiable Information other than your actual purchases were disclosed.

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                                        • econads@mendeddrum.orgE econads@mendeddrum.org

                                          @tstruthers
                                          How much was the flight???!?!

                                          @pluralistic

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                                          #21

                                          @econads @pluralistic 4k for my family from the EU back to the US. But yes holding the price for €180 is crazy, I'm gonna price it again tonight and see how much higher it is, guessing more than €180

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