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  • pixelfed@mastodon.socialP pixelfed@mastodon.social

    Pixelfed bans AI generated contributions.

    We heard you! We are not accepting any AI or agentic code contributions, and will keep building Pixelfed by hand.

    Thank you for your feedback!

    https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed#ai-generated-contributions

    #pixelfed #aiBan

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    #105

    A clear contribution policy saves maintainers from reviewing work they cannot safely merge. It also tells newcomers exactly where human judgment still matters.

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    • pixelfed@mastodon.socialP pixelfed@mastodon.social

      Pixelfed bans AI generated contributions.

      We heard you! We are not accepting any AI or agentic code contributions, and will keep building Pixelfed by hand.

      Thank you for your feedback!

      https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed#ai-generated-contributions

      #pixelfed #aiBan

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      #106

      @pixelfed great, Ill unblock you 😋

      @bob

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      • pixelfed@mastodon.socialP pixelfed@mastodon.social

        Pixelfed bans AI generated contributions.

        We heard you! We are not accepting any AI or agentic code contributions, and will keep building Pixelfed by hand.

        Thank you for your feedback!

        https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed#ai-generated-contributions

        #pixelfed #aiBan

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        northninja@mastodon.social
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        #107

        @pixelfed Any Business that rejects Ai Im automatically a fan of !

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        • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

          @chadmccullough OK then. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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          #108

          @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

          alex i glanced at your profile

          you're blind?

          you're not the first blind person i've met who defends AI

          and i understand it. it must be such a boon for those with vision impairments

          is it this that drives your position?

          i think AI, if done ethically, can be a great benefit for people with disabilities

          but alex, you have to understand: pushing the current AI manifestation *in general* is not the same issue. be more nuanced

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          • A abhiyantrik@mastodon.social

            @pixelfed even though there is a stronger consensus that using AI will degrade the project quality in the long term, I personally feel like we have to find middle ground. Completely abandoning AI will slow down progress. I see so many pain points in using the #pixelfed app itself. I feel, goal should be to make OSS genuine alternative to private software and taking AI's help, will help us achieve it. But doing a complete vibe coding is a no no. Tools like auto completion are really helpful tools

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            #109
            @pixelfed @abhiyantrik Maybe slower progress isn't a problem if it means the result behaves as intended the first time around, and faster progress in the short term, followed by having to fix unknown bugs (many of which have already been fixed but are just being dug up by LLMs) results in slower progress in the long run. :3c
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            • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com
              @pixelfed @abhiyantrik Maybe slower progress isn't a problem if it means the result behaves as intended the first time around, and faster progress in the short term, followed by having to fix unknown bugs (many of which have already been fixed but are just being dug up by LLMs) results in slower progress in the long run. :3c
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              #110
              @pixelfed @abhiyantrik Also, LLMs aren't AI. ;3
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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                alex i glanced at your profile

                you're blind?

                you're not the first blind person i've met who defends AI

                and i understand it. it must be such a boon for those with vision impairments

                is it this that drives your position?

                i think AI, if done ethically, can be a great benefit for people with disabilities

                but alex, you have to understand: pushing the current AI manifestation *in general* is not the same issue. be more nuanced

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                #111

                @benroyce That and also that me and my other friends and even people that I know through Blind Information Technology Solutions (BITS) struggle to code by hand and thus AI helps us get good quality code done and thus we are making accessible programs. Also we're not just one shot prompting everything, some of our stuff we've worked on for weeks and some repos have like hundreds of tests, and not just that, we test things to make sure everything is perfect, and if something's off, we go back to the Claude window and tell it what's wrong, and what's missing or what it needs to do, even researching documentation for the NVDA screen reader and libraries that help programs interact with the screen reader APIs, and it does really well because we take the time to make it work. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @alexchapman @pixelfed

                  go back to twitter, alex. we don't want techbros huffing their AI hype around here

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                  #112

                  @benroyce It's amazing how the same fucking guy who's over here desperately trying to pretend like Ai isn't purely evil shit and how this garbage isn't run by fascists ALSO is elsewhere talking about how Substack is his blog platform of choice. Same fucking guy.

                  I mean, what's his encore, singing the praises of Omarchy?

                  These fucking people.

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                  • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                    @benroyce That and also that me and my other friends and even people that I know through Blind Information Technology Solutions (BITS) struggle to code by hand and thus AI helps us get good quality code done and thus we are making accessible programs. Also we're not just one shot prompting everything, some of our stuff we've worked on for weeks and some repos have like hundreds of tests, and not just that, we test things to make sure everything is perfect, and if something's off, we go back to the Claude window and tell it what's wrong, and what's missing or what it needs to do, even researching documentation for the NVDA screen reader and libraries that help programs interact with the screen reader APIs, and it does really well because we take the time to make it work. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                    #113

                    @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                    that's wonderful

                    a suggestion for you:

                    do not champion AI

                    champion AI for people with disabilities

                    if you champion AI in general, you're going to be met with venom. because, in general, AI is terrible

                    just last week i got in a similar argument:

                    https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/117322597908342619

                    the blind guy wound up agreeing with me by the end of the back and forth

                    it's about nuance: bad in general, good in niches

                    alex: just voice the nuance

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                    • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                      @Hyperlynx Well, it doesn't matter if we use it, we just have to fight for on device AI, but until that happens, we use what we can.

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                      #114

                      @Hyperlynx @alexchapman Sadly, these corporations are fighting tooth and nail to prevent on-device LLMs because they can't profit on them.

                      • They've jacked up GPU and RAM prices so nobody can build a powerful enough machine to run the biggest LLMs.
                      • They're spewing out all kinds of propaganda stories to try to get the government to outlaw local LLMs.

                      So until we take the corporations down, most folks won't be able to run sufficiently useful LLMs locally.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                        that's wonderful

                        a suggestion for you:

                        do not champion AI

                        champion AI for people with disabilities

                        if you champion AI in general, you're going to be met with venom. because, in general, AI is terrible

                        just last week i got in a similar argument:

                        https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/117322597908342619

                        the blind guy wound up agreeing with me by the end of the back and forth

                        it's about nuance: bad in general, good in niches

                        alex: just voice the nuance

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                        #115

                        @benroyce Yeah, and that's why devs outright banning AI/agentic code contributions is not a good thing because people like me and those in BITS that would want to contribute accessibility fixes, because yes blind people can access visual apps like Pixelfed and obviously Instagram, because of alt text and the audio in videos, and Loops has an alt text feature for videos, but for example I wanted to fix the top bar icons in the Loops app, where it wouldn't say back on some screens but just select with VoiceOver and nothing would be said, I hope that's fixed in the next update, but if AI contributions weren't banned, I could literally describe what the issues is, explain to the AI that it needs to add an accessibility label for that icon, and it would go and do that, then I could test it, commit and push, then do a PR. People need to see those uses rather than going AI bad, AI banned. Yeah there's some disadvantages, like people who will one shot prompt something and submit it claiming to fix something and all they've done is made it worse or added unneeded nonsense, and also the whole debacle with datacenters, but people need to see the positives, like how its allowing blind people and those with cognitive disabilities that mean the traditional coding process is extremely difficult or impossible, to make cool things and fix issues in other places. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                        • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com

                          @Hyperlynx @alexchapman Sadly, these corporations are fighting tooth and nail to prevent on-device LLMs because they can't profit on them.

                          • They've jacked up GPU and RAM prices so nobody can build a powerful enough machine to run the biggest LLMs.
                          • They're spewing out all kinds of propaganda stories to try to get the government to outlaw local LLMs.

                          So until we take the corporations down, most folks won't be able to run sufficiently useful LLMs locally.

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                          #116

                          @tk I get that, but there's also the fact that there are blind people and also people who have cognitive disabilities that make the traditional coding process really difficult or in some cases impossible, and thus AI has helped them bring their dreams into reality. This is why I'm against the whole banning of AI contributions, as someone might wanna contribute an accessibility fix, but can't due to the fact they could only get it done with a coding agent. @Hyperlynx

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                          • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                            @benroyce Yeah, and that's why devs outright banning AI/agentic code contributions is not a good thing because people like me and those in BITS that would want to contribute accessibility fixes, because yes blind people can access visual apps like Pixelfed and obviously Instagram, because of alt text and the audio in videos, and Loops has an alt text feature for videos, but for example I wanted to fix the top bar icons in the Loops app, where it wouldn't say back on some screens but just select with VoiceOver and nothing would be said, I hope that's fixed in the next update, but if AI contributions weren't banned, I could literally describe what the issues is, explain to the AI that it needs to add an accessibility label for that icon, and it would go and do that, then I could test it, commit and push, then do a PR. People need to see those uses rather than going AI bad, AI banned. Yeah there's some disadvantages, like people who will one shot prompt something and submit it claiming to fix something and all they've done is made it worse or added unneeded nonsense, and also the whole debacle with datacenters, but people need to see the positives, like how its allowing blind people and those with cognitive disabilities that mean the traditional coding process is extremely difficult or impossible, to make cool things and fix issues in other places. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                            #117

                            @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                            but alex do you see how if you led with this angle instead of defending AI *in general* you would have a nicer time here?

                            because you have a point

                            AI *in general* fucking sucks

                            i don't know the answer for people with disabilities. but it has to be something that doesn't feed a dehumanizing theft machine

                            the problem is the corporations. they are ruining AI

                            running protein folding or cosmology simulations is not the problem

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                              but alex do you see how if you led with this angle instead of defending AI *in general* you would have a nicer time here?

                              because you have a point

                              AI *in general* fucking sucks

                              i don't know the answer for people with disabilities. but it has to be something that doesn't feed a dehumanizing theft machine

                              the problem is the corporations. they are ruining AI

                              running protein folding or cosmology simulations is not the problem

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                              #118

                              @benroyce I tried and some people threw the oh you're using disability to defend AI BS at me, so I came back at them, and they didn't like it. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                              • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                                @benroyce I tried and some people threw the oh you're using disability to defend AI BS at me, so I came back at them, and they didn't like it. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                                #119

                                @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                                in another thread? because i don't see that here

                                i understand the psychology of that. you don't want to cite the people with disabilities angle because then it gets personal, and that hurts

                                but if you remove that angle, you wind up defending something that, objectively, is terrible

                                i admit AI helps blind people

                                now you have to admit AI sucks in general

                                or... you get all this disgust dumped on you. that's a hard road man

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                                  in another thread? because i don't see that here

                                  i understand the psychology of that. you don't want to cite the people with disabilities angle because then it gets personal, and that hurts

                                  but if you remove that angle, you wind up defending something that, objectively, is terrible

                                  i admit AI helps blind people

                                  now you have to admit AI sucks in general

                                  or... you get all this disgust dumped on you. that's a hard road man

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                                  #120

                                  @benroyce Yeah I just think people need to calm down on the hate, yeah the way AI is ran isn't good but holy hell people are taking their disgust too far. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                                  • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                                    @tk I get that, but there's also the fact that there are blind people and also people who have cognitive disabilities that make the traditional coding process really difficult or in some cases impossible, and thus AI has helped them bring their dreams into reality. This is why I'm against the whole banning of AI contributions, as someone might wanna contribute an accessibility fix, but can't due to the fact they could only get it done with a coding agent. @Hyperlynx

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                                    #121

                                    @Hyperlynx @alexchapman Why couldn't they file a feature request that a human can fulfill?

                                    Just another example of LLMs destroying community. 😕

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                                    • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com

                                      @Hyperlynx @alexchapman Why couldn't they file a feature request that a human can fulfill?

                                      Just another example of LLMs destroying community. 😕

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                                      #122

                                      @tk Because us blind people shouldn't be excluded from coding because we struggle to manually do it. @Hyperlynx

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                                      • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                                        @benroyce Yeah I just think people need to calm down on the hate, yeah the way AI is ran isn't good but holy hell people are taking their disgust too far. @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

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                                        #123

                                        @alexchapman @chadmccullough @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed

                                        the fediverse is full of programmers who resent the dehumanization and mediocrity that AI at their jobs has created. this is a different experience than yours. the fediverse allows them to dump their frustrations. so when you come here and defend AI *in general* you're just setting yourself up for a drama wave of attacks

                                        but i also understand if you say it's good for blind people it's hurtful to get clapback

                                        i don't know man

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                                        • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                                          @tk Because us blind people shouldn't be excluded from coding because we struggle to manually do it. @Hyperlynx

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                                          #124
                                          @Hyperlynx @alexchapman Asking a bot to generate code isn't coding and never will be. 😕
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