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  • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

    @aaron @da_667 @cR0w on a scale of 0 to Very, how hard is it to, say, install some flavour of BSD on an old Thinkpad that's currently running Debian

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    #73

    @da_667 @jackeric @aaron @cR0w old Thinkpad but running Debian, probably very easy.

    There’s also quite a BSD presence here.

    Now as for choosing which BSD: used to say try them all, but.

    FreeBSD and MidnightBSD are full-on slop. No idea about DragonflyBSD but no OS using LLVM instead of GCC even has a chance.

    So that branch is out. Take the other.

    OpenBSD core hasn’t acted on the slop in base the tmux author sneaked in for ten months. They need to address that.

    Leaves you with NetBSD.

    (MirBSD is not a choice if your Thinkpad is new enough to run 64-bit Debian. Suitable models end around 2005?)

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    • kusuriya@masto.hackers.townK kusuriya@masto.hackers.town

      @da_667 Computing is a lot like American politics, always has been. You just hold your nose and pick the least bad of choices and hope it will get better. Then every so often a genuinely good choice comes along and we nitpick it to death.

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      #74

      @kusuriya @da_667

      Computing can easily be sorted out: those who stayed awake in math class - and everyone else.

      I pay no attention to the Everyone Else. They have nothing intelligent to say but they sure are loud enough saying it.

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      • brett_e_carlock@mastodon.onlineB brett_e_carlock@mastodon.online

        @xan
        @da_667
        If only it was actually usuable for all the life stuff that requires browser access 😭

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        #75

        @Brett_E_Carlock @da_667 anger is a gift i think we should use in these times

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        • krishean@tech.lgbtK krishean@tech.lgbt

          @da_667 fun fact, if you log in to a website on chrome using a google login it will sometimes cause the browser to just automatically become logged into your google account without your consent

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          #76

          @krishean @da_667

          We should start a counter-ad campaign for chrome: "Chrome. The Flock of web browsers."

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          • me@mastodon.seahousen.euM me@mastodon.seahousen.eu

            @da_667 stupid question: what's the problem with systemd? I've seen many people who dislike it but I have yet to hear a reason or an argument

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            #77

            @me
            the reasons I've seen so far boil down to mostly two things:

            1. they are massively feature creeping and doing a lot of things in one tool instead of just doing the one thing and doing it well
            2. they accept llm usage in their repos

            I don't really want to get further into it here

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            • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

              "I want to use a web browser that isn't deep-throating AI"

              Well, your choices are lynx and that's basically it.

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              #78

              @da_667 Vivaldi also, no?

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              • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                @aaron @da_667 @cR0w on a scale of 0 to Very, how hard is it to, say, install some flavour of BSD on an old Thinkpad that's currently running Debian

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                #79

                @jackeric

                NetBSD is small and pretty quick to install so I think its worth trying

                I honestly found the installer pretty much fine¹. You're somewhat likely to have problems with wifi (you *can* use a usb wifi card) and suspend-resume (not much you can do in that case); but they're both working on my laptop, with a little bit of jank

                ¹: I've heard the partitioning part is rough but I just wiped the whole disk and selected "recommended partition sizes"

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                • fennix@infosec.spaceF fennix@infosec.space

                  @krishean @da_667

                  We should start a counter-ad campaign for chrome: "Chrome. The Flock of web browsers."

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                  #80

                  @fennix @krishean

                  Here's Contrachrome for ya.

                  @da_667

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                  • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                    fellas, I'm gonna level with you. I'm starting to feel like computing in general is a series of trade-offs on how far you're willing to compromise on your morals.

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                    #81

                    @da_667 was not always so? I choose Linux, but so no games, no graphical editor (and at beginning also no gui). Hardware choice was limited. License: choose most freedom but work for companies which will not give back their modifications. I deleted facebook and whatsup more then 10 years ago, it means to lose many (most) contacts snd events (as European). Removed google, and now i cannot see many tutorials or instructions. Mastodon is moral vs usefulness. BTW: too much morals is imho utopia.

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                      #82

                      @elebertus @paul_ipv6 @da_667

                      Correct, you can grow up and out. We recognised (correctly) how fucked this all is…

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                      • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                        fellas, I'm gonna level with you. I'm starting to feel like computing in general is a series of trade-offs on how far you're willing to compromise on your morals.

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                        #83

                        @da_667

                        I am a 70 year old lefty and I am so proud of you kids, finally growing up and realizing that everything is corrupted by money, the more you have, the more corrupt you are

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                        • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                          Use linux. Accept the curse of the automatroid: most major distros are accepting AI commits. Accept that systemd has been a cancer for a very long time.

                          Use macOS. Accept the curse of the Walled garden: You may run only what we tell you to run, when we tell you to run it. The rules change with every major OS update. You will accept them or you will go elsewhere.

                          Use Windows. Accept the curse of the hunted: You are being watched. You cannot slip your pursuer, you cannot obfuscate yourself. Even if you think you've hidden yourself, because of how convoluted Windows is, you can't really be 100% sure that you are not being watched. And even if you aren't you won't know whether or not a critical update re-enables the watcher in the walls.

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                          #84

                          @da_667 yeah hey hi i don’t see a fuck this shit I’m out completely option

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                          • kusuriya@masto.hackers.townK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #85

                            @aaron @da_667 @cR0w And when you become one of those mages, fuuuu

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                            • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                              @aaron @da_667 @cR0w on a scale of 0 to Very, how hard is it to, say, install some flavour of BSD on an old Thinkpad that's currently running Debian

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                              #86

                              @jackeric @aaron @da_667 @cR0w ohhh its not hard and thats part of the curse. Installation is trivial, basic setup is like the angels singing from the heavens. You weep because this is how it should be... then you bump into your first problem that isn't in the plentiful docs and have to find the community...

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                              • river@lingo.lolR river@lingo.lol

                                @jackeric

                                NetBSD is small and pretty quick to install so I think its worth trying

                                I honestly found the installer pretty much fine¹. You're somewhat likely to have problems with wifi (you *can* use a usb wifi card) and suspend-resume (not much you can do in that case); but they're both working on my laptop, with a little bit of jank

                                ¹: I've heard the partitioning part is rough but I just wiped the whole disk and selected "recommended partition sizes"

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                                #87

                                @river I mean with debian I need a script I named `fixmouse.sh` to do something-or-other to the trackpad after resume to get more advanced features like click, scroll etc to work again

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                                • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                                  @river I mean with debian I need a script I named `fixmouse.sh` to do something-or-other to the trackpad after resume to get more advanced features like click, scroll etc to work again

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                                  #88

                                  @jackeric ha well if you're putting up with that then netbsd should be fiiiine

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                                  • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                    Is keypassXC problematic? sort of. Heard they started accepting AI commits. Is it "We tacitly support a dude who thinks europe needs an ethnic cleansing" levels of bad? Well AI sucks ass, but its not quite as bad as supporting DHH.

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                                    #89

                                    @da_667 There's an AI-free fork at https://codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass

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                                    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                      Use linux. Accept the curse of the automatroid: most major distros are accepting AI commits. Accept that systemd has been a cancer for a very long time.

                                      Use macOS. Accept the curse of the Walled garden: You may run only what we tell you to run, when we tell you to run it. The rules change with every major OS update. You will accept them or you will go elsewhere.

                                      Use Windows. Accept the curse of the hunted: You are being watched. You cannot slip your pursuer, you cannot obfuscate yourself. Even if you think you've hidden yourself, because of how convoluted Windows is, you can't really be 100% sure that you are not being watched. And even if you aren't you won't know whether or not a critical update re-enables the watcher in the walls.

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                                      #90

                                      @da_667 Could you tell me more about your problems with systemd? The only criticisms I've seen is that it's "bloated" and "monolithic". Are there moral issues with it too?

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                                      • nthelt@mastodon.socialN nthelt@mastodon.social

                                        @da_667 Could you tell me more about your problems with systemd? The only criticisms I've seen is that it's "bloated" and "monolithic". Are there moral issues with it too?

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                                        #91

                                        @nthelt no, I won't.

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                                        • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                          @nthelt no, I won't.

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                                          #92

                                          @da_667 I should accept that it's a cancer without evidence?

                                          You're definitely not obligated to do free labor to educate me, but advocating for a position and not backing it up is odd.

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