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  • alikatze@social.tchncs.deA alikatze@social.tchncs.de

    @Strandjunker
    I'm not sure, but I think it's a bit of both.
    As far as I recognize, the US army is not Trump and there are many experienced generals who know what is important. The same I know lots of Americans who are reliable integer citizens and not trumpists.
    I think, it's right to demand a stronger participation by Germany (and the EU) in the NATO.
    But I also believe that there's a strategical interest for the US to be present in Germany.

    It's not easy (never been). I'm German and hope we stay with each other.

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    #25

    @alikatze @Strandjunker the US President is the commander in chief of their armed forces. In a way, Trump *is* the US armed forces.

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    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

      US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

      It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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      #26

      @Strandjunker Ramstein afb enters chat.

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      • dissident@mastodon.scotD dissident@mastodon.scot

        @Strandjunker It's absurd how many Americans fail to grasp that Trump serves only himself and his cabal, and manifestly doesn't give a shit about his duty to the USA.

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        #27

        @dissident @Strandjunker
        Remember, Trump serves only himself and Putin.

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        • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

          @dissident @Strandjunker
          Remember, Trump serves only himself and Putin.

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          #28

          @Strandjunker @Guillotine_Jones @dissident not in that order.

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          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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            #29

            @Strandjunker A similar problem may happen with Costa Rica. We're fucked.

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            • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

              US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

              It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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              #30

              @Strandjunker Ethics by proxy: American defense roots at home, lessens afar.

              And war should be the LAST ethic.

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              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                #31

                @Strandjunker well, it may harm US business interests, which is certainly tied strongly to the US state, but it will not hurt US non-ruling-class people.

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                • daswarkeinhuhn@netzkae.seD daswarkeinhuhn@netzkae.se

                  @Strandjunker@mstdn.social Personally, I would actually feel a great deal better if the 40,000 troops of this mafia-terror state were to leave our country. That makes it more difficult for the USA to invade us.

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                  #32

                  @daswarkeinhuhn @Strandjunker you should draft a law that says once the US draws down, that number becomes the maximum allowed for any reasons.

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                  • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                    @2legged @Strandjunker Any time in the last 35 years would have been good. Right now, not so much.

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                    #33

                    @rupert @2legged @Strandjunker (as an American) why are you so sure our troops would help you? All it would take is one of your citizens criticizing trump and your leader not jailing them. The opposing leader giving him a gold statue of himself and all of a sudden he doesn’t think you should fight at all now.

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                    • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                      US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                      It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                      #34

                      @Strandjunker OTOH, perhaps the US crippling their ability to operate globally while the orange idiot is the president is the best thing for the world right now.

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                      • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                        US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                        It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                        #35

                        @Strandjunker the decline of the empire

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                        • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                          US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                          It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                          #36

                          @Strandjunker Demented Donnie fails to understand this, too.

                          But then again, he still thinks other countries pay for his tariffs and Americans don't.

                          Idiot.

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                          • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                            US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                            It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                            #37

                            @Strandjunker I spent three years working in Germany (not in the military) in the early 1990s, and was surprised at how many Germans did not like my presence because they didn't like our military being there. There were bars and restaurants who would not admit me because they had a "no Americans" policy. I'm sure there is no sadness on the part of many Germans that our troops are no longer "occupying" their country - which was also a phrase I heard while there.

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                            • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                              US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                              It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                              #38

                              @Strandjunker Maybe that's his goal. Not in a directed or managed asset sort of way. But attenpting cozying up to dictators sort of way. Simping for his senpai sort of way. He plans on stealing/grifting as much cash as he can, leave us in the most vulnerable state he can possibly can within his considerable control then bailing leaving us to burn.

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                              • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                                #39

                                @Strandjunker Withdraw the troops. Let Europe stand on its own

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                                • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                  US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                  It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                                  #40

                                  @Strandjunker lack of education is the cause..

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                                  • strandjunker@mstdn.socialS strandjunker@mstdn.social

                                    US troops are not in Germany to protect Germany. They’re there because the US needs bases to conduct operations beyond the North American continent. If Trump withdraws them, he will harm the United States, not Germany.

                                    It’s absurd how many Americans fail to grasp this.

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                                    #41

                                    @Strandjunker It's about the only explanation that makes all of his bizarre behavior make any cohesive sense. Maybe he hates this country as much as Putin does. Wants to watch it burn from afar as badly, too.

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                                    • rebelyn2@c.imR rebelyn2@c.im

                                      @Strandjunker I spent three years working in Germany (not in the military) in the early 1990s, and was surprised at how many Germans did not like my presence because they didn't like our military being there. There were bars and restaurants who would not admit me because they had a "no Americans" policy. I'm sure there is no sadness on the part of many Germans that our troops are no longer "occupying" their country - which was also a phrase I heard while there.

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                                      #42

                                      @rebelyn2 @Strandjunker Yeah. Because it was post-cold war fashionable to do so. That posture has shifted considerably with Russia once again as a threat. Night & day difference. You're comparing apples to oranges.

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                                      • blizzarda@mastodon.socialB blizzarda@mastodon.social

                                        @Strandjunker the decline of the empire

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                                        #43

                                        @BlizzardA @Strandjunker We're not an empire. Not sure why people keep glitching on this. I can only presume it's because people don't know the actual definition of what an empire is.

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                                        • A aiuto@masto.social

                                          @Strandjunker OTOH, perhaps the US crippling their ability to operate globally while the orange idiot is the president is the best thing for the world right now.

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                                          #44

                                          @aiuto @Strandjunker Not even close. The other two interested & capable contenders for 'world leader' are Russia & China. Whatever your beef is with the USA, you're not going to see a better world order emerge under either of them. Quite the opposite, in fact. We'd see imperialism re-embraced & nuclear enabled. Only a complete moron would see that as preferable.

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