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  3. The framing of this episode is extremely silly ("Is she a prophet... or is she just wrong?"): That is the oddest dichotomy I've encountered in a while.

The framing of this episode is extremely silly ("Is she a prophet... or is she just wrong?"): That is the oddest dichotomy I've encountered in a while.

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    To describe that as either being "a prophet" or being "just wrong" resonates maybe with the very religious overtones of some of the "AI" discourse --- and points up how much of it is simply untethered from reality.

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    @emilymbender An academic working for a non-prophet organisation, then.

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      To describe that as either being "a prophet" or being "just wrong" resonates maybe with the very religious overtones of some of the "AI" discourse --- and points up how much of it is simply untethered from reality.

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      @emilymbender It reminds me of how certain self-consciously confrontational interviews shows pitch for an oh-so-serious demographic desperate to consider themselves informed. Hard Talk on BBC used to do this, as did Newsnight before certain big name head-to-heads. They pair it with a Devil's advocate style of questioning. Still, if they let you speak, they let you speak...

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      • krozruch@kolektiva.socialK krozruch@kolektiva.social

        @emilymbender It reminds me of how certain self-consciously confrontational interviews shows pitch for an oh-so-serious demographic desperate to consider themselves informed. Hard Talk on BBC used to do this, as did Newsnight before certain big name head-to-heads. They pair it with a Devil's advocate style of questioning. Still, if they let you speak, they let you speak...

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        #8

        @emilymbender While I'm here in fact, is there one particular interview or written piece you would suggest to show university students who rely on "AI" on a daily basis? I have one of your videos in mind where you discuss summaries (how LLM's output is based on training corpus, not just an inputted text) but it may not be the best.

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        • krozruch@kolektiva.socialK krozruch@kolektiva.social

          @emilymbender While I'm here in fact, is there one particular interview or written piece you would suggest to show university students who rely on "AI" on a daily basis? I have one of your videos in mind where you discuss summaries (how LLM's output is based on training corpus, not just an inputted text) but it may not be the best.

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          @krozruch You know your audience, but here are some things that might fit the bill:

          https://www.youtube.com/live/l-OWi6VoMng?t=4250s

          Written version at p.41 here:

          https://doi.org/10.54675/KECK1261

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            @krozruch You know your audience, but here are some things that might fit the bill:

            https://www.youtube.com/live/l-OWi6VoMng?t=4250s

            Written version at p.41 here:

            https://doi.org/10.54675/KECK1261

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            @krozruch

            ChatGP-Why: When, if ever, is synthetic text safe, appropriate, and desirable?, Sensemaking Lectures, GRAILE AI, August 8, 2023

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpE40jwMilU

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              @krozruch

              ChatGP-Why: When, if ever, is synthetic text safe, appropriate, and desirable?, Sensemaking Lectures, GRAILE AI, August 8, 2023

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpE40jwMilU

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              @krozruch Maybe best:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmkPILudYY&sttick=0

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                @krozruch Maybe best:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmkPILudYY&sttick=0

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                @emilymbender Thank you so much for these! 🙂 I'll take a look over them the next couple of days.

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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/116098129762953036

                  The framing of this episode is extremely silly ("Is she a prophet... or is she just wrong?"): That is the oddest dichotomy I've encountered in a while. I'm a scholar, carefully observing what's going on now through the lens of my expertise, and sharing what I see.

                  I do my best to get things right, though no one can hope to be 100% correct and on top of that I'm working in a field where a lot of the claims I am debunking are based on non-disclosed datasets, etc.

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                  @emilymbender I think you did great. You managed to show the difference between us (reseachers) and them (people with huge conflicts of interest making PR statements).

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                  • kfort@social.sciences.reK kfort@social.sciences.re

                    @emilymbender I think you did great. You managed to show the difference between us (reseachers) and them (people with huge conflicts of interest making PR statements).

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                    @kfort Thank you!

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/116098129762953036

                      The framing of this episode is extremely silly ("Is she a prophet... or is she just wrong?"): That is the oddest dichotomy I've encountered in a while. I'm a scholar, carefully observing what's going on now through the lens of my expertise, and sharing what I see.

                      I do my best to get things right, though no one can hope to be 100% correct and on top of that I'm working in a field where a lot of the claims I am debunking are based on non-disclosed datasets, etc.

                      >>

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                      #15

                      @emilymbender I hate the way Podcasts and YouTube videos are promoted.....

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