How much slop is in Linux now?

[spitfire@mastodon.de]

@davidgerard

I am really baffled by the speed of how fast this project goes down the shitter

/e: yet there's still a glimmer of hope that torvalds is going to get over his "it's just a tool" phase. I heard him already complaining about the volume of bogus pull requests etc.

[mccovican@infosec.exchange]

@spitfire @davidgerard

I'm afraid that glimmer is looking more and more like a mirage...

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com/

His ignorance is, at this point, wholly wilful.

[spitfire@mastodon.de]

@McCovican

oh damn - reading that mail made me literally facepalm. instantly going ad-hominem and argueing like a 5th grader.

[yora@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@spitfire @McCovican What we need is a fork.
New Linux and Slop Linux need to be developed separately.

[landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@davidgerard Problem solved ️

[landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@yora @spitfire @McCovican There are other, under-resourced operating systems that are more worthy of the attention than this insecure C fossil.

[slotos@toot.community]

@davidgerard And _the guy_ has lost his marbles.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com/

[yora@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@landelare @spitfire @McCovican Sure. If we make all the Linux software run on it I'd be happy to use it.

[moriel@chaosfem.tw]

@yora @spitfire @McCovican

i've been wondering when this would get mentioned. i wish i had the free time to work on such a project, but although i learned C in the early 90's i've never done any kernel work so even the thought of using what little free time i have sounds completely daunting.

[landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@spitfire @davidgerard It's not often that I'm rooting for the AI bros, but if they could submit even more bogus PRs, that would be very nice of them in this particular instance

[spitfire@mastodon.de]

@landelare the tried and tested "flood the zone with shit" gambit, yes?

[landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@spitfire I'm not very well-versed in these techniques, but I'll happily watch the wrestling match

[dngrs@chaos.social]

@yora @landelare @spitfire @McCovican

Redox OS @redox_os@icosahedron.websit (strong anti AI policy) already runs a ton, including a graphical desktop!

[paul@fedi.paulwilde.uk]

@davidgerard@circumstances.run Sorry, I can’t read it, I have thrown all of my computers into the sea and never wish to touch one again.

[tmw@ioc.exchange]

@kbm0 @davidgerard i wonder if that's part of the reason for this change

[moblack@mastodon.online]

@McCovican @spitfire @davidgerard unfortunately, the trend more and more agentic AI contributions to the kernel and less and less humans vetted to make those AI contributions. Linux will stop being a community project, and it will be more like a few key maintainers and companies managing AI agents to mutate the code, "open source" only in the sense that, I guess, you can look at the code with your eyeballs if you want

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@paul a wise choice

good thing masto works on an abacus now

[moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org]

@davidgerard @paul
"good thing masto works on an abacus now"
i thought that was supposed to be SNAC and GoToSocial's big feature.

[cstanhope@social.coop]

@tmw @kbm0 @davidgerard Yeah, I don't know for sure, but considering Linux is basically a corporate project, this change will also provide welcome ambiguity for lawyers that either want to enforce copyright claim on the kernel or deny copyright infringement. The ambiguity will also be useful for lobbyists when arguing for favorable changes to laws, "It's already deeply embedded, and there's no way to tell what was written by what!"

[zedaardv@mastodon.world]

@McCovican @spitfire @davidgerard

Wait is he arguing that deterministic and non-deterministic are the same thing?