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  • mntmn@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mntmn@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

    neauoire@merveilles.townN theorangetheme@en.osm.townT ben@mastodon.socialB krig@goto.liten.appK citadel1@fosstodon.orgC 27 Replies Last reply
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    • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

      for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

      neauoire@merveilles.townN This user is from outside of this forum
      neauoire@merveilles.townN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @mntmn HAWT

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      • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

        for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

        theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
        theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
        theorangetheme@en.osm.town
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        #3

        @mntmn Hell yeah, Emacs gang! 🤙😎 Been remapping caps lock since 2014. Thank you, it's nice to see that some people are still out there slinging bits the old-fashioned way. 🖤❤️💛

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        • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

          for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

          ben@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
          ben@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
          ben@mastodon.social
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          #4

          @mntmn Thank you. I really need to hear it.

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          • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

            for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

            krig@goto.liten.appK This user is from outside of this forum
            krig@goto.liten.appK This user is from outside of this forum
            krig@goto.liten.app
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            #5

            @mntmn PREACH ❤

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            • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

              for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

              citadel1@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
              citadel1@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
              citadel1@fosstodon.org
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              #6

              @mntmn spoken like a true programmer 👏

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              • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
                budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
                budududuroiu@hachyderm.io
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @mntmn not to toot my own horn but I'm doing a 40 day AI Lent to keep my brain sharp, it's probably the most intellectually rewarding (and frustrating) thing I've done recently

                https://buduroiu.com/blog/announcing-ai-lent/

                wademcgillis@mastodon.socialW glyph@mastodon.socialG mostol@social.coopM 3 Replies Last reply
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                • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                  for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                  ed1conf@bsd.networkE This user is from outside of this forum
                  ed1conf@bsd.networkE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  For whomever needs to hear this: you are not alone. I am not vibecoding any of the software I write. I write it all by hand. I have leveled up to using ed(1) on a glass TTY rather than a hardcopy-output device. I am modernizing my stacks and using languages with excellent compilers like C89. I think about how to do more with less. I am trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. I enjoy reading manuals and references. I believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                  @mntmn

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                  • ed1conf@bsd.networkE ed1conf@bsd.network

                    For whomever needs to hear this: you are not alone. I am not vibecoding any of the software I write. I write it all by hand. I have leveled up to using ed(1) on a glass TTY rather than a hardcopy-output device. I am modernizing my stacks and using languages with excellent compilers like C89. I think about how to do more with less. I am trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. I enjoy reading manuals and references. I believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                    @mntmn

                    thalia@discuss.systemsT This user is from outside of this forum
                    thalia@discuss.systemsT This user is from outside of this forum
                    thalia@discuss.systems
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                    #9

                    @ed1conf @mntmn Smh, I prefer writing C74 in UNIX V4 with ed(1) on my Teletype Model 43. Though, I'd love to upgrade to a Teletype Model 37.

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                    • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                      for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                      gsuberland@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gsuberland@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gsuberland@chaos.social
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                      #10

                      @mntmn ❤

                      honestly, we need as many people as possible who actually give a shit about the quality of the things they make.

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                      • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                        for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                        astropug@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
                        astropug@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
                        astropug@hachyderm.io
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                        #11

                        @mntmn

                        We, who are newer, or who are students, also needed to hear this. Thank you.

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                        • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                          for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                          micdan@mstdn.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                          micdan@mstdn.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                          micdan@mstdn.party
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                          #12

                          @mntmn SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK ❤️‍🔥

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                          • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                            for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                            d6@merveilles.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                            d6@merveilles.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                            d6@merveilles.town
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                            #13

                            @mntmn 💪 fuck yeah emacs 🐐

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                            • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                              @mntmn not to toot my own horn but I'm doing a 40 day AI Lent to keep my brain sharp, it's probably the most intellectually rewarding (and frustrating) thing I've done recently

                              https://buduroiu.com/blog/announcing-ai-lent/

                              wademcgillis@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                              wademcgillis@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @budududuroiu not to toot my own horn but I'm doing an almost 13,038 day fast from vibe coding.

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                              • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

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                                drcxd@mastodon.social
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                                #15

                                @mntmn Same here. Tried vibe coding and then intentionally stay away from it. Also an Emacs user. Can't say I am doing the right thing, just what I feel like to do.

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                                • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                  for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                                  glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @mntmn instafollow

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                                  • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                    @mntmn not to toot my own horn but I'm doing a 40 day AI Lent to keep my brain sharp, it's probably the most intellectually rewarding (and frustrating) thing I've done recently

                                    https://buduroiu.com/blog/announcing-ai-lent/

                                    glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    glyph@mastodon.social
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                                    #17

                                    @budududuroiu @mntmn https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116163565875479590

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                                    • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                      for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                                      anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      anyia@lgbtqia.space
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                                      #18

                                      @mntmn I feel like we're in a drowning minority

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                                      • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                        for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                                        theartlav@anarres.familyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @mntmn Thank you, i needed to hear this. 💜

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                                        • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                          for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.

                                          vashbear@hachyderm.ioV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @mntmn

                                          Hi Lucie, I love the sentiment. I do think it is important to understand what good coding is, and coding is enjoyable.

                                          But... sorry, I have a "but"

                                          I am an experieced 30 year coder. The truth is that the best human coder cannot keep up with what AI coding can do. I was shocked when I realized this but it's true.

                                          AI can keep the entire code base in its buffer and scan and find things instantly that I would not know. It can refactor, debug and redeploy. It can generate documentation instantly. Any API, even ones I have never seen to some esoteric endpoint, it can master instantly. it has been trained billions and billions of lines of code. That is more than I have by a factor of over 100,00 million.

                                          It is like having a team of 10 cross-disciplinary developers working with you plus a documentation writer , a QA person and project manager.

                                          If I have a question about how something works, I can ask it, and it describes it and gives me links to the relevant section.

                                          It is only getting better. Every few months its capabilities leap incredibly.

                                          It still needs a team leader. It needs someone to guide what it can do. That is the role to embrace. You will be a much better team leader if you understand the fundamentals.

                                          Believe me, I understand that there are plenty of downsides to this. And .. it scares the hell out of me. But wishing it were not so will not make it go away.

                                          I dont know if you have tried the most recent releases - I use Claude Code -- but you owe it to yourself to try it if only to gauge what you are up against.

                                          And by all means -- keep learning to code on your own -- but if that is the only tool in your quiver, it should be a hobby, not a means to make a living.

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