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  3. Fairphone put out a document that takes a holistic look at the environmental impact of electronics.

Fairphone put out a document that takes a holistic look at the environmental impact of electronics.

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  • techaltar@mas.toT techaltar@mas.to

    @rominator while I agree that it would be even better with more high-end hardware I think you underestimate how long many people keep using midrange phones. Not everyone is annoyed by slightly laggy performance over time

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    @Techaltar @rominator

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    • shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS shadowdancer@mstdn.social

      @Techaltar
      Interesting chart, but what is "headquarters" in this context?

      Anyway, I've been seriously considering an FP6, but it's a bit difficult to get a clear picture of the current status of the OS.

      I'm not looking to de-Google atm so I'd stay on the stock OS. I'd need to be certain things like casting to a Chromecast and Android auto work flawlessly.

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      @shadowdancer @Techaltar why don't you ask them?

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      • julesbl@mastodon.me.ukJ julesbl@mastodon.me.uk

        @shadowdancer @Techaltar why don't you ask them?

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        @julesbl
        Yeah, well I tried asking the chatbot on their web page and it was totally cluless although trained specifically to answer product questions.

        Anyway, discussions on their forums don't give a too encouraging picture about FP6 Android Auto compatibility.

        I bet if I asked the customer support directly they'd say of course it works perfectly.
        @Techaltar

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        • rominator@mstdn.socialR rominator@mstdn.social

          @Techaltar I appreciate what fairphone is doing, but without powerful hardware the logic behind keeping your phone for 7 years breaks. The pricing of iphone 17e is on par with frairphone 6 and i would bet that you would have better 7 years of experience with iphone rather than with fairphone.

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          @rominator @Techaltar

          The Fairphone 6 is pretty powerful! The problem I foresee for the remainder of my use of the FP6 is with the #enshittification of Google's apps (them trying to drive it into obsolecence prematurely because of arbitrarily raised system resource requirements, mostly RAM), but I am in the process of replacing those anyway.

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          • rominator@mstdn.socialR rominator@mstdn.social

            @Techaltar I appreciate what fairphone is doing, but without powerful hardware the logic behind keeping your phone for 7 years breaks. The pricing of iphone 17e is on par with frairphone 6 and i would bet that you would have better 7 years of experience with iphone rather than with fairphone.

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            @rominator
            What's keeping me from still using my Fairphone 3+ (!) as my primary device is definitely not the hardware. The hardware is absolutely fine. It's the intrusive policies and requirements of more and more apps. I use a second hand Pixel now because GrapheneOS does not work on Fairphone hardware, and I want control over my data and communication.
            @Techaltar

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            • shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS shadowdancer@mstdn.social

              @julesbl
              Yeah, well I tried asking the chatbot on their web page and it was totally cluless although trained specifically to answer product questions.

              Anyway, discussions on their forums don't give a too encouraging picture about FP6 Android Auto compatibility.

              I bet if I asked the customer support directly they'd say of course it works perfectly.
              @Techaltar

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              @shadowdancer @Techaltar
              I've talked to customer support, they are OK, it's worth dropping them a line

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              • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

                @rominator I've been using fairphone devices for nearly 10 years. First the Fairphone 2, and more recently (but multiple years) the Fairphone 4. I haven't felt that the 4 is underpowered, and therefore the 5 and 6 will likely not be as well.

                @Techaltar

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                @DiogoConstantino @rominator @Techaltar I'm on a Fairphone 4 and don't feel much need to upgrade. Depending on what you are doing, a more powerful phone could work better, but for the average person it's probably enough. My wife is on my Fairphone 3 hand me down and it's still doing fine.

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                • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

                  @DiogoConstantino @rominator @Techaltar I'm on a Fairphone 4 and don't feel much need to upgrade. Depending on what you are doing, a more powerful phone could work better, but for the average person it's probably enough. My wife is on my Fairphone 3 hand me down and it's still doing fine.

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                  @smsm1 yes, it will always depend on what you do.

                  @rominator @Techaltar

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                  • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

                    @smsm1 yes, it will always depend on what you do.

                    @rominator @Techaltar

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                    @DiogoConstantino @smsm1 @rominator @Techaltar

                    Well, Fairphones have fairly good compatibility with #linux, so they can easily be repurposed as power-sipping home servers when you're done with them.
                    https://hackaday.com/2025/04/09/self-hosting-a-cluster-on-old-phones/
                    https://hackaday.com/2025/08/16/from-smartphone-to-a-home-server/
                    https://blog.denv.it/posts/pmos-k3s-cluster/
                    https://github.com/Bry50/Old-Smartphone-as-a-server

                    Or, you know, just install #postmarketOS with a nice GUI on there and keep using it as a smartphone without worrying about whatever years of support the manufacturer promised. Upstream, baby.

                    https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

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                    • shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS shadowdancer@mstdn.social

                      @Techaltar
                      Interesting chart, but what is "headquarters" in this context?

                      Anyway, I've been seriously considering an FP6, but it's a bit difficult to get a clear picture of the current status of the OS.

                      I'm not looking to de-Google atm so I'd stay on the stock OS. I'd need to be certain things like casting to a Chromecast and Android auto work flawlessly.

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                      @shadowdancer @Techaltar "Headquarters" is referring to Fairphone's company headquarters in Amsterdam (for product and software development, support, management, etc)

                      As for the FP6, it's been doing pretty well for me software-wise, and I'm in Canada so had to deal with the momentary issues with lack of North American support at the beginning but things are smooth and fixed now. Occasional hiccups but nothing disruptive

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                      • papiris@hachyderm.ioP papiris@hachyderm.io

                        @DiogoConstantino @smsm1 @rominator @Techaltar

                        Well, Fairphones have fairly good compatibility with #linux, so they can easily be repurposed as power-sipping home servers when you're done with them.
                        https://hackaday.com/2025/04/09/self-hosting-a-cluster-on-old-phones/
                        https://hackaday.com/2025/08/16/from-smartphone-to-a-home-server/
                        https://blog.denv.it/posts/pmos-k3s-cluster/
                        https://github.com/Bry50/Old-Smartphone-as-a-server

                        Or, you know, just install #postmarketOS with a nice GUI on there and keep using it as a smartphone without worrying about whatever years of support the manufacturer promised. Upstream, baby.

                        https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

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                        @papiris I'm an Ubuntu Touch user and contributer, but PostmarketOS is nice too.

                        @smsm1 @rominator @Techaltar

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