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This week's comic: The dangers of solar panels

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  • jensorensen@mastodon.socialJ jensorensen@mastodon.social

    This week's comic: The dangers of solar panels

    #solar #energy #SolarPower

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    #47

    @jensorensen

    The shock when you find out solar panels are made in coal-fired ovens in China with lots of soon-to-be scarce resources that require oil & sulphuric acid, and are not true "renewables" but another source of waste when they need to be replaced in 30 years.

    Note: we've installed solar on our roof & I agree we need to decarbonize as fast as we can, but this kind of propaganda that suggests we can do business as usual after switching to solar is also ... just hopium.

    #CruelOptimism

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    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

      @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen is 10kw enough for a 18000 sqft house (4500 sqft covered) with swimming pool & personal gym?

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      #48

      @GOKUSHRM Depends on the latitude of where you live, the insulation of the house, the efficiency of your heating/cooling, whitegoods etc etc. Numerous calculations need to be done above the simple area of the house. We're in SE Australia at 34°S where there's lots of annual sunshine and high efficiency rev cycle heat/aircon, heat pump water heat, recent high efficiency whitegoods and so on. We use a lot of power, about 23kWh/day on avg. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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      • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

        @GOKUSHRM Depends on the latitude of where you live, the insulation of the house, the efficiency of your heating/cooling, whitegoods etc etc. Numerous calculations need to be done above the simple area of the house. We're in SE Australia at 34°S where there's lots of annual sunshine and high efficiency rev cycle heat/aircon, heat pump water heat, recent high efficiency whitegoods and so on. We use a lot of power, about 23kWh/day on avg. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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        #49

        @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen the country I'm living is known for hot temperature 🔥 almost 40-45°c 9-10 months regularly 😂. U can say full year sun ☀️ on head

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        • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

          @GOKUSHRM You might need more than 1 panel to live the dream, but I wholly endorse a big effin solar array (ours is 10.5kW), 40.5kWh of batteries and induction cooking. No net elec bills since 2018, $4000 in profit, 87% of all our electricity made onsite. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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          #50

          @weezmgk @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen
          There is not enough lithium for so many batteries

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          • ana@mas.toA ana@mas.to

            @weezmgk @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen
            There is not enough lithium for so many batteries

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            #51

            @ana Incorrect. Lots of renewable energy haters try to leverage this myth. Not only is there enough lithium (it's not particularly rare, there's more lithium on the planet than lead, tin & silver), it's 100% recyclable and there's more types of rechargeable batteries than just lithium based. @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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            • chrisp65_3@social.vivaldi.netC chrisp65_3@social.vivaldi.net

              @Moss_the_TeXie

              Nicht komisch, ein ernstes Problem. Frag ihre Psychologin.

              @jensorensen

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              #52

              @chrisp65_3
              Ja, aber sein, nicht haben.

              @jensorensen

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              • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen the country I'm living is known for hot temperature 🔥 almost 40-45°c 9-10 months regularly 😂. U can say full year sun ☀️ on head

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                #53

                @GOKUSHRM 10kW PV might be enough, for your application, but PV is so cheap that you should cover as much roof area with PV as you can. Batteries have become much cheaper of late, too. Start with your annual kWh consumption and work your way up from there. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                • jensorensen@mastodon.socialJ jensorensen@mastodon.social

                  This week's comic: The dangers of solar panels

                  #solar #energy #SolarPower

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                  #54

                  @jensorensen the Mad Magazine energy of the clean-air-sniffing character is sending me 😂😂🙏

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                  • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                    @GOKUSHRM 10kW PV might be enough, for your application, but PV is so cheap that you should cover as much roof area with PV as you can. Batteries have become much cheaper of late, too. Start with your annual kWh consumption and work your way up from there. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                    #55

                    @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen ok thanks for valuable info... I'll definitely install solar system soon once my house is completed

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                    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                      @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen ok thanks for valuable info... I'll definitely install solar system soon once my house is completed

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                      #56

                      @GOKUSHRM I would be incorporating solar & batteries during the construction. Much better than retrofitting. There's enough resources around for you to estimate your power needs and build to suit. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                      • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                        @GOKUSHRM I would be incorporating solar & batteries during the construction. Much better than retrofitting. There's enough resources around for you to estimate your power needs and build to suit. @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                        #57

                        @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen ok. I'll consult my solar panel provider's before installing anyone...

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                        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                          @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen ok. I'll consult my solar panel provider's before installing anyone...

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                          #58

                          @GOKUSHRM Get at least 3 quotes on your job before proceeding, avoid the very cheapest particularly if you're being quoted on small, new company mfrs of battery/inverter equipment. Important for your mfr to be around long enough to provide service through the warranty periods. We chose top-tier mfrs even though it cost more. LG has even left PV mfg but LG is a behemoth and will most likely be around for the next 30 years for any warranty claims @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                          • moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.socialM moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.social

                            @chrisp65_3
                            Ja, aber sein, nicht haben.

                            @jensorensen

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                            #59

                            @Moss_the_TeXie

                            Der Blick, die Gestik in Verbindung mit dem Problem - das schließt jede andere aus.

                            @jensorensen

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                            • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                              @GOKUSHRM Get at least 3 quotes on your job before proceeding, avoid the very cheapest particularly if you're being quoted on small, new company mfrs of battery/inverter equipment. Important for your mfr to be around long enough to provide service through the warranty periods. We chose top-tier mfrs even though it cost more. LG has even left PV mfg but LG is a behemoth and will most likely be around for the next 30 years for any warranty claims @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen

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                              #60

                              @weezmgk @pomubieng @VoquiLeibbrandt @jensorensen I'll get mine from 2 of the biggest business groups in our country. They are also known as global business groups... Reliance grp & Tata grp. 3rd one is adani grp

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                              • jensorensen@mastodon.socialJ jensorensen@mastodon.social

                                This week's comic: The dangers of solar panels

                                #solar #energy #SolarPower

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                                #61

                                @jensorensen as a Gen-X the bottom-right panel speaks to me. Oof.

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