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Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size.

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  • johnkavs@mastodon.ieJ johnkavs@mastodon.ie

    @atoponce what about Chromium?

    atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #22

    @johnkavs It's unaffected. This is only Google Chrome bloat.

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    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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      #23

      @atoponce Just in case someone wasn't already convinced they should dump Google Chrome for fucking good

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      • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

        @atoponce@fosstodon.org

        No clue. I only looked in
        ~ because the only other locations my user would be able to write to would be /tmp or /var/tmp (which would be a bad place for Chrome to try to write to since those tend to be smaller partitions than /home normally is (whether /home is a standalone partition or part of `/)

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        #24

        @ferricoxide @atoponce what's the point of using Chrome ? I mean if I use Microsoft I will get a lot shit from Microsoft... No surprise there.

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        • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

          @johnkavs It's unaffected. This is only Google Chrome bloat.

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          #25

          @atoponce not enough people know about Chromium, which Google were forced to create through anti-monopoly pressure

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          • johnkavs@mastodon.ieJ johnkavs@mastodon.ie

            @atoponce not enough people know about Chromium, which Google were forced to create through anti-monopoly pressure

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            #26

            @atoponce

            Chromium: non-creepy chrome

            https://download-chromium.appspot.com

            Dont listen to googles discouragment: works fine, you choose whether you update it and it doesn't pressure you to use a google account

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            • tomtom@pouet.chapril.orgT tomtom@pouet.chapril.org

              @ferricoxide @atoponce what's the point of using Chrome ? I mean if I use Microsoft I will get a lot shit from Microsoft... No surprise there.

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              #27

              @tomtom@pouet.chapril.org @atoponce@fosstodon.org

              If it weren't for the horribleness that is the
              #AWS #FleetManager to access #Windows EC2s via RDP(ish), I wouldn't use Chrome. However, AWS decided that FleetManager should be horrible to use with non #Chromium browsers (or maybe AWS just hates #Firefox).

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              • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                #28

                @atoponce I've no choice but to use Chrome for work on my self-supplied PC, but I'm currently trying:

                - Delete weights.bin
                - Create an empty file with the same name
                - Set its file attributes to read-only, and system to hopefully make it impossible for Google's weights file to replace it when Chrome tries to redownload it.

                Fingers crossed. If that doesn't work, I'll see if the hidden attribute works any better than the system attribute.

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                • pauldrye@spacey.spaceP pauldrye@spacey.space

                  @atoponce I've no choice but to use Chrome for work on my self-supplied PC, but I'm currently trying:

                  - Delete weights.bin
                  - Create an empty file with the same name
                  - Set its file attributes to read-only, and system to hopefully make it impossible for Google's weights file to replace it when Chrome tries to redownload it.

                  Fingers crossed. If that doesn't work, I'll see if the hidden attribute works any better than the system attribute.

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                  #29

                  @pauldrye It seems toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI does the trick.

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                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                    #30

                    @atoponce

                    Another reason to use Vivaldi web browser.

                    It is the last mainstream web browser to not bundle an AI.

                    @Vivaldi

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                    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                      @faduda A possible solution might be toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI, although I haven't been able to confirm, as the 4 GB weights.bin file hasn't shown up on my install yet.

                      And no, this is strictly Google Chrome browser bloat. It doesn't affect Chromium, Edge, Brave, or any of the other Chromium forks as I understand it.

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                      #31

                      RE: https://social.ridetrans.it/@Andres4NY/116523275939751956

                      @atoponce @faduda

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                      • w6kme@mastodon.radioW w6kme@mastodon.radio

                        @atoponce Seems like an easy fix.

                        "The only ways to make the deletion stick are to disable Chrome's AI features through chrome://flags or enterprise policy tooling that home users do not generally have, or to uninstall Chrome entirely "

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                        #32

                        @W6KME @atoponce Deleting Chrome is the preferred solution for fixing Chrome. It fixes all currently known and future issues.

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                        • xgqt@functional.cafeX xgqt@functional.cafe

                          @mgorny @atoponce

                          > If the user deletes it, Chrome re-downloads it.

                          Please google, give me back the money I spent on roaming to download this. They should be sued for this crap at this point, but of course we live in free country(/ies) and of course The Law will be executed justly?... right? 🙂

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                          #33

                          @xgqt @mgorny @atoponce I've had phones where this would be one-eighth of its storage.

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                          • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                            @atoponce A gigantic rant but no useful, actionable information. Just like the last time. I'm going to ignore this.

                            Who's gonna tell him that Microsoft installs silently Copilot on Windows PCs?

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                            #34

                            @bontchev @atoponce one company does a bad thing, so other company doing a similar bad thing is nothing

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                            • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                              @W6KME @atoponce Deleting Chrome is the preferred solution for fixing Chrome. It fixes all currently known and future issues.

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                              #35

                              @veronica @atoponce And with very little effort, and no need for advanced knowledge. It's a great option.

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                              • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                #36

                                @atoponce it's so easy to deactivate it - just uninstall Chrome! You all should have done it long time ago!

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                                • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                  Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                  https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                  #37
                                  @atoponce

                                  > At a billion-device scale the climate costs are insane.

                                  this is just blind LLM outrage. Yes it's a waste of storage and network that nobody consented to. It's not guaranteed to make people use more CPU as they have to interact with whatever feature this is going to empower. But it's *only* 4GB.

                                  Please write an article about the climate costs of internet ads. This is about a trillion times more wasteful and nobody consents to it. It wastes so much CPU and you could literally calculate the damage to batteries of mobile devices caused by this unwanted, unsolicited, uninvited compute.
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                                  • rodneylives@mefi.socialR rodneylives@mefi.social

                                    @xgqt @mgorny @atoponce I've had phones where this would be one-eighth of its storage.

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                                    #38

                                    @rodneylives @mgorny @atoponce

                                    I still have a backup phone like that

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                                    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                      #39

                                      @atoponce Is this news? It's over a year old. IIRC, it's designed to reduce the amount of data sent off-machine. They were talking about space consumption in Canary release in Feb of 2025 (https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chrome-ai-dev-preview-discuss/c/PhgjQg4IoQk)

                                      Looking for all the models that have been downloaded for cache in browser, it's not just limited to one. chrome://on-device-internals/

                                      You can use the Tools tab to 'Load Default' model, then type your prompt in the box below. It's slower than a cloud-based response.

                                      Ask 'how to spell "incorriggable" and it takes 2 seconds to spit out: The correct spelling is incorrigible.

                                      Takes 10 more seconds to explain each part of the word.

                                      Then it crashes.

                                      I'd rather handle spell checks on-box than send every word up to a cloud service.

                                      But, don't ask it what the range of radio delay is between the earth and the moon. Highest Quality says 2.5 milliseconds, and crashes. Fastest inference says 22 seconds, and crashes. Not usable.

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                                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                        https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                        #40

                                        @atoponce Which OS? Chrome under Linux affected?

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                                        • tbachner@ruhr.socialT tbachner@ruhr.social

                                          @atoponce Which OS? Chrome under Linux affected?

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                                          #41

                                          @tbachner It's not for me which I installed via Flatpak. I've left Chrome running for the past few hours and executed:

                                          % find / -type f -name weights.bin 2> /dev/random

                                          a couple times, with no results.

                                          However, @ferricoxide found it on their machine in ~/.config/google-chrome/

                                          YMMV.

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