I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person") 😆
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@ccferrie @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech
'A dhiabhail' is great - I love the actual sound of that word. So soft for a hard curse. Am only now thinking of the similarity in Danish and Irish here. In Danish, invoking the devil is also a way of saying 'for fuck's sake'. 'For Satan' - the devil - a dhiabhail. 'For Satan' is a stronger curse in everyday Danish speech than just using 'fuck' in English (as people do too).
@CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo For @eclectech's benefit "A diabhail" is pronounced something like "A Yeowl" in English phonetics (to rhyme with owl)
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@eclectech @CiaraNi I think it's the case in Scandinavian languages that their proper swear words are all religion-based, rather than, erm, carnal/physical.
@eclectech @MiaMarkTwo @CiaraNi
Quebecois french is much the same, it seems every way to swear is a sacred churchy object; some variation on ‘tabarnak’ would probably fit the project, but wait for actual replies for Quebec…
Hey Quebecers, what’s the closest expression to the UK’s “for fuck’s sake” in your neck of the woods?
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@eclectech @MiaMarkTwo @CiaraNi
Quebecois french is much the same, it seems every way to swear is a sacred churchy object; some variation on ‘tabarnak’ would probably fit the project, but wait for actual replies for Quebec…
Hey Quebecers, what’s the closest expression to the UK’s “for fuck’s sake” in your neck of the woods?
@DavidM_yeg @eclectech @CiaraNi I imagine @stephanie is the best person to ask.
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@DavidM_yeg @eclectech @CiaraNi I imagine @stephanie is the best person to ask.
@MiaMarkTwo @eclectech @CiaraNi @stephanie
Yes, I figured she and a couple others I know would see it.
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I love the styling, would definitely put such a thing on a wall somewhere.
@DavidM_yeg Thanks.
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Oh interesting! I know of “câlisse” but in my *limited* experience have never heard it in the wild. Would it be used by itself as an expression of disgust/dismay, or in a longer phrase?
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I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person")
Considering making this the first in a series. A multilingual collection of "for fuck's sake".
I could eventually make a poster of colourful global disgruntlement.
@eclectech in brazil we go with speaking god's name in vain instead of profanity, the closest translation i can think of is "pelo amor de deus"
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@eclectech in brazil we go with speaking god's name in vain instead of profanity, the closest translation i can think of is "pelo amor de deus"
@peachymist Thanks! There seem to be a few countries that do the same.
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
@eclectech My entry for Dutch: "Verdomme nog aan toe"
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Oh interesting! I know of “câlisse” but in my *limited* experience have never heard it in the wild. Would it be used by itself as an expression of disgust/dismay, or in a longer phrase?
@DavidM_yeg @stephanie @eclectech @CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo When I had Québecois roommates, I feel like it only ever came out as part of a compound swear. "câlisse-tabernac-esti"
I feel like lesser swearing, where they only pulled out one, it was always "tabernac."
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
@eclectech another Dutch one (a bit more sweaty than the others I've seen so far: de tering! Literally 'the tuberculosis'
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@DavidM_yeg @stephanie @eclectech @CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo When I had Québecois roommates, I feel like it only ever came out as part of a compound swear. "câlisse-tabernac-esti"
I feel like lesser swearing, where they only pulled out one, it was always "tabernac."
@UrbanEdm @DavidM_yeg @stephanie @eclectech @CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo I’ve heard from one Québécois friend that which of those words is considered most spicy/taboo varies somewhat by age/generation. Not sure if that’s true? Would love to hear informed opinions.
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Oh interesting! I know of “câlisse” but in my *limited* experience have never heard it in the wild. Would it be used by itself as an expression of disgust/dismay, or in a longer phrase?
@DavidM_yeg @stephanie @eclectech @CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo that one's versatile! As an exclamation, it can carry a feeling much like FFS, when it's stretched out:
Cawwww' - lisssss' ! (May be accomanied by stomping a foot or hand).And it can serve for emphasis as an adjective:
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@CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo For @eclectech's benefit "A diabhail" is pronounced something like "A Yeowl" in English phonetics (to rhyme with owl)
@ccferrie @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech Thanks. It's not the most phonetic of words right enough, even by Irish standards
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@eclectech
Thai, provided by my partner who is Thai:ห่าอะไรวะ
Literal translation would be something like "what kind of cholera is this?"
@petherfile Now I want to use the literal version in English. A monotone 'what kind of cholera is this?' could be so expressive, dripping with disdain.
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@eclectech
Thai, provided by my partner who is Thai:ห่าอะไรวะ
Literal translation would be something like "what kind of cholera is this?"
Wait, There Are Kinds?
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
In Spanish (Latinamerica) we have:
"Puta Madre" which would translate as roughly "whore mother" (it loses something in translation).
Also there is: "Con Una Chingada!" which would be in something like "with a big fuck" in English (again, translation issues).
And a distant one would be "Oh Que La Chingada" which is something like "oh what the big fuck" or "oh what a fuck" again the translation does nothing to the deliciousness of saying these out loud in a proper setting.
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@SuneAuken @silhelm @eclectech That too
@CiaraNi @SuneAuken @silhelm @eclectech a longer version, which I feel is used to soften it a bit:" For ind i hede hule helvede" (hot, hollow hell, or something)
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@MiaMarkTwo
I was reminded recently of the idea that swear words have origins in three categories: religion, sex, and excrement. I find it interesting that there's (at least) one less category represented in Scandinavian languages.
@CiaraNi @eclectech@gnate @MiaMarkTwo @CiaraNi @eclectech But we have several really bad curses, such as "for pokker" (for smallpox' sake) and "kraft-ædemig" (may cancer eat me)
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@gnate @MiaMarkTwo @CiaraNi @eclectech But we have several really bad curses, such as "for pokker" (for smallpox' sake) and "kraft-ædemig" (may cancer eat me)
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