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  3. We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

    Key features of the addictive design:
    🔹Infinite scroll
    🔹Autoplay
    🔹Push notifications
    🔹Highly personalised recommender system

    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

    sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu So how would this work with Loops? As that has infinite scrolling, autoplay, push notifications (coming soon), and there for you page is only getting better.

    Does this mean Loops is at high risk too?

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

      Key features of the addictive design:
      🔹Infinite scroll
      🔹Autoplay
      🔹Push notifications
      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

      jonben@social.spejset.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      jonben@social.spejset.org
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #4

      @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! 😉

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

        Key features of the addictive design:
        🔹Infinite scroll
        🔹Autoplay
        🔹Push notifications
        🔹Highly personalised recommender system

        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

        leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @EUCommission go, go, go!

        https://gram.social/p/leavex/925373860645730520

        #LeaveTikTok #DSA #EU

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

          Key features of the addictive design:
          🔹Infinite scroll
          🔹Autoplay
          🔹Push notifications
          🔹Highly personalised recommender system

          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

          grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          grob@mstdn.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #6

          @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

          eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE 1 Reply Last reply
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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

            Key features of the addictive design:
            🔹Infinite scroll
            🔹Autoplay
            🔹Push notifications
            🔹Highly personalised recommender system

            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

            hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #7

            @EUCommission

            That is not the only problem. Consider this :

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

              There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

              Key features of the addictive design:
              🔹Infinite scroll
              🔹Autoplay
              🔹Push notifications
              🔹Highly personalised recommender system

              We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

              TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

              https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

              hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #8

              @EUCommission

              Ban TikTok , X and META!

              js@mastodon.nlJ 1 Reply Last reply
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              • sam@break3.socialS sam@break3.social

                @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu So how would this work with Loops? As that has infinite scrolling, autoplay, push notifications (coming soon), and there for you page is only getting better.

                Does this mean Loops is at high risk too?

                ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #9

                @sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.

                That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.

                The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                  There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                  Key features of the addictive design:
                  🔹Infinite scroll
                  🔹Autoplay
                  🔹Push notifications
                  🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                  We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                  TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                  https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                  stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  stux@mstdn.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #10

                  @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                  https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E

                  ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA athavariel@social.vivaldi.netA kubofhromoslav@esperanto.masto.hostK 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                    Key features of the addictive design:
                    🔹Infinite scroll
                    🔹Autoplay
                    🔹Push notifications
                    🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                    marta_f_r@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    marta_f_r@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #11

                    @EUCommission
                    Isn,t youtube the same?

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                    • marta_f_r@mastodon.socialM marta_f_r@mastodon.social

                      @EUCommission
                      Isn,t youtube the same?

                      sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      sam@break3.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #12

                      @marta_f_r@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu and Instagram Reels

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                      • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                        @sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.

                        That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.

                        The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.

                        tehpw@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                          Key features of the addictive design:
                          🔹Infinite scroll
                          🔹Autoplay
                          🔹Push notifications
                          🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #14

                          @EUCommission Enough with international double standards, Instagram and TikTok are equally addictive, they just have different age groups. Enforce changes on both or none. Is there similar action towards Instagram?

                          Congrats though, it's a step towards the right path 💫 and setting an example for other countries 🌍

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                          • tehpw@mstdn.socialT tehpw@mstdn.social

                            @ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.

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                            #15

                            @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                              https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E

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                              #16

                              @stux @EUCommission I don't think we need short-video platforms at all

                              The purpose of the very idea of a short video platform is to be addictive and detrimental to attention spans.

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                Key features of the addictive design:
                                🔹Infinite scroll
                                🔹Autoplay
                                🔹Push notifications
                                🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                #17

                                @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                  There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                  Key features of the addictive design:
                                  🔹Infinite scroll
                                  🔹Autoplay
                                  🔹Push notifications
                                  🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                  We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                  TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                  https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                  #18

                                  @EUCommission

                                  "Kids between 12 and 15 spend 4 to 5 hours daily on Tiktok."

                                  140 million users in the European Union alone.

                                  Tiktok sure is an abomination but one must ask as well why parents and grandparents are so busy that they can't properly engage with their own kids. The cost of living crisis made of Tiktok a convenient child minder. Same with Youtube, on that regard.

                                  #Europe #EuropeanUnion #Tiktok

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                    Key features of the addictive design:
                                    🔹Infinite scroll
                                    🔹Autoplay
                                    🔹Push notifications
                                    🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                    #19

                                    @EUCommission - What an App to lose brain cells.

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                                    • sam@break3.socialS sam@break3.social

                                      @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

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                                      #20

                                      @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                                        https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E

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                                        #21

                                        @EUCommission listen to this guy @stux

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                          Key features of the addictive design:
                                          🔹Infinite scroll
                                          🔹Autoplay
                                          🔹Push notifications
                                          🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #22

                                          @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

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