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  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
    ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

    jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ greatlaketrout@noc.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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    • marcus113@pixelfed.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      marcus113@pixelfed.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      marcus113@pixelfed.social
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      #3
      C'est con
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      • ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI ivansanchez@mastodon.social

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

        jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jdelacueva@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #4

        @IvanSanchez
        Freedom of Information. Access to documentation of the Commission.

        @EUCommission

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        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          mira@outerheaven.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
          mira@outerheaven.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
          mira@outerheaven.club
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #5

          @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu is Google Play really the only way to use two-factor authentication there? not even a FIDO token or some other alternative?

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          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            phl@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #6

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.

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            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              strangequark@dice.campS This user is from outside of this forum
              strangequark@dice.campS This user is from outside of this forum
              strangequark@dice.camp
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #7

              @jdelacueva Besides the privacy risks, it seems reckless that a US Big Tech company should be gatekeeper on a European government website.

              I did manage to register my Yubikey but still...

              @EUCommission

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              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                bluishgreen@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                bluishgreen@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                bluishgreen@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #8

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

                lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL 1 Reply Last reply
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                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
                  zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
                  zetabeta@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #9

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                  https://keepandroidopen.org/

                  developer verification gives more central control to alphabet inc.

                  third party app installs are still possible in modified android systems.

                  relying on closed platforms is a bad idea.

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                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    doomsdayscw@kolektiva.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    doomsdayscw@kolektiva.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    doomsdayscw@kolektiva.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #10

                    Yikes, @jdelacueva !

                    @EUCommission

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                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      ciclop@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
                      ciclop@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
                      ciclop@mastodon.art
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #11

                      @jdelacueva Would MicroG help? I've also found that the Huawei version of certain apps work without google services.

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                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        5ombr4@mastodon.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
                        5ombr4@mastodon.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
                        5ombr4@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #12

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                        This has to stop.

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                        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
                          energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
                          energisch_@troet.cafe
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #13

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                          max@gruene.socialM divverent@misskey.deD 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            dmtomas@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dmtomas@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dmtomas@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #14

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission my knowledge is at least 10/15 years old, but this might be not your bank’s stupid requirement, it’s one of Visa’s or Mastercard’s. I had to be certified by Visa/Mastercad/Amex to do eft interfaces, not by banks. And when specific transactions were declined I had to contact specific departments and read pages of docs till I find the clause that says exactly the opposite than they were telling me for several days…

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                            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jdrm@social.linux.pizza
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #15

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission use this in other platforms such as Linux phones (PostmarketOS, UBTouch, SailfishOS...) is science fiction.

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                              • ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI ivansanchez@mastodon.social

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

                                greatlaketrout@noc.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                greatlaketrout@noc.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                greatlaketrout@noc.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #16

                                @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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                                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  pizzaclick@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  pizzaclick@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  pizzaclick@hachyderm.io
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #17

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  Is this "EU Login app" the following:

                                  > The EU Login app is developed by the European Commission to facilitate your day-to-day Multi-factor authentication for many EU applications and services.

                                  from: https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application_en

                                  ?

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                                  • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                                    max@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    max@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @energisch_ @jdelacueva @EUCommission It's not that they don't know, they just don't care about minorities.

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                                    • bluishgreen@mastodon.socialB bluishgreen@mastodon.social

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

                                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                      lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
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                                      #19

                                      @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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                                      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                        @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

                                        bluishgreen@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @LukefromDC @jdelacueva @EUCommission It does not relate to that, using EU portals is mostly for applying for grants/research funding or some business services. I only really use to apply for funding. I don't have experience with other services but it is not related to banking or accessing basic services.

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                                        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                          gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                          gokushrm@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #21

                                          @jdelacueva mmm, install GPS (oldest version) then remove all permissions and cut all internet permissions (no background no wifi. So no data to GPS by doing this.. Then install ur EU app.

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