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  • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

    Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

    It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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    #22

    @EugeneMcParland Is there a petition to sign … ?

    I’m sure it would receive plenty of signatures..

    How about an EU citizen’s legalation initiative? 🤔🤔

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    • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

      Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

      It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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      #23

      @EugeneMcParland

      Wow! you mean they have not already done that?? WTF!

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      • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

        Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

        It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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        #24

        @EugeneMcParland There are lots of wealthy ruzzians visiting their properties around the Mediterranean. Those are the ones not sent to fight as cannon-fodder, and supporting putin. Stopping them travelling is an obvious action the EU should impose.

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        • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

          Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

          It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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          #25

          @EugeneMcParland @altbot

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          • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

            Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

            It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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            #26

            @EugeneMcParland

            but leave putin's daughter in paris

            and maybe a well-connected kremlin douchebag in london

            etc., etc.

            1. you know they wont nuke paris or london

            2. if they suddenly go home you get notice shit's going up a notch

            (/half kidding, half 🤔 )

            ah, fuck it, send them all home

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            • schabe@troet.cafeS schabe@troet.cafe

              @EugeneMcParland @wolf Its always a states war and a societys war not an individuals.
              What is the point? Is Israel a Terrorist State too?

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              #27

              @Schabe @EugeneMcParland @wolf as the United States of America since Trump took control.

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              • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                #28

                @EugeneMcParland would be ok in case it’s another continent? 🤮

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @EugeneMcParland

                  but leave putin's daughter in paris

                  and maybe a well-connected kremlin douchebag in london

                  etc., etc.

                  1. you know they wont nuke paris or london

                  2. if they suddenly go home you get notice shit's going up a notch

                  (/half kidding, half 🤔 )

                  ah, fuck it, send them all home

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                  #29

                  @benroyce
                  Putin's daughter used to live in Amsterdam, that is no longer the case. Amsterdam is however close enough to London and Paris to not be bombed, flattening the Dutch capital would also affect the British and French capitals.
                  @EugeneMcParland

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                  • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                    @benroyce
                    Putin's daughter used to live in Amsterdam, that is no longer the case. Amsterdam is however close enough to London and Paris to not be bombed, flattening the Dutch capital would also affect the British and French capitals.
                    @EugeneMcParland

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                    #30

                    @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                    i thought she was a DJ in paris

                    another daughter maybe?

                    https://mixmag.net.au/read/putins-youngest-daughter-is-secretly-living-as-a-dj-in-paris-news

                    maybe every european capital should detain someone important enough or related to someone important enough as an insurance policy

                    (i kid)

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                      i thought she was a DJ in paris

                      another daughter maybe?

                      https://mixmag.net.au/read/putins-youngest-daughter-is-secretly-living-as-a-dj-in-paris-news

                      maybe every european capital should detain someone important enough or related to someone important enough as an insurance policy

                      (i kid)

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                      #31

                      @benroyce
                      I am not an expert on Putin's daughter(s), my assumption is that it is probably the same person who just moved from one place to another.
                      @EugeneMcParland

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                      • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                        @benroyce
                        I am not an expert on Putin's daughter(s), my assumption is that it is probably the same person who just moved from one place to another.
                        @EugeneMcParland

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                        #32

                        @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                        same

                        i'm just shit talking

                        it's a gossip topic, not interesting enough

                        i just thought it was an interesting effect, this "we can't nuke europe, our family lives there!"

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                          same

                          i'm just shit talking

                          it's a gossip topic, not interesting enough

                          i just thought it was an interesting effect, this "we can't nuke europe, our family lives there!"

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                          #33

                          @benroyce
                          People in the Kremlin know well that the last thing they do will be to drop a nuke somewhere.

                          All the threats about nuking Europe are solely meant for for internal consumption in Russia The Russian government understands very clearly that an uprise is developing. In order to temper the uprise they feed the Russian population a picture of a common enemy. These are the last gasps of a declining Russian regime. The only thing they have left is heavy repression.
                          @EugeneMcParland

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                          • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                            Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                            It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                            #34

                            @EugeneMcParland@mastodon.ie I honestly would make this more nuanced than a blanket ban on ALL russian people... You might hate me for saying this, because I realise this is a heated topic, but as much as I hate Putin, the Russian military, and all high power peopme in Russia, I doubt the PEOPLE of Russia agree with killing Ukranians... The government of Russia is actively hostile to their people, and routinely violates their freedom, the actions of the russian government do not represent the russian people, and therefore I don't think we should punish them for something they have no say in. Russia is not a democracy as much as the Russian government wants to paint it as one.

                            Allowing visas for Russian people also makes it possible for people who are probably at risk to flee their country and seek political asylum in Europe, which is something that may encourage people who disagree with Putin's regime to speak up against it.

                            I would make a very big blacklist with all Russian oligarchs and anyone who has any relation with the russian government though, but I doubt this will go anywhere because it turns out those types of Russians are the ones bringing big money to Europe, and the others don't...

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                            • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                              @benroyce
                              People in the Kremlin know well that the last thing they do will be to drop a nuke somewhere.

                              All the threats about nuking Europe are solely meant for for internal consumption in Russia The Russian government understands very clearly that an uprise is developing. In order to temper the uprise they feed the Russian population a picture of a common enemy. These are the last gasps of a declining Russian regime. The only thing they have left is heavy repression.
                              @EugeneMcParland

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                              #35

                              @benroyce
                              It is remarkable how many Russians live in European cities, especially Paris and London. Very wealthy Russians. Most of those are monetary rich but morally very poor. As far as I know they don't contribute anything to their local community. Maybe a handful do but in general they are more of a burden to the cities where they live.
                              @EugeneMcParland

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                              • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                @benroyce
                                It is remarkable how many Russians live in European cities, especially Paris and London. Very wealthy Russians. Most of those are monetary rich but morally very poor. As far as I know they don't contribute anything to their local community. Maybe a handful do but in general they are more of a burden to the cities where they live.
                                @EugeneMcParland

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                                #36

                                @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                                Right, I don't think they would nuke. We have rational reasons why but then: "the assholes making the decisions, their families live in Europe" is the most hilariously direct argument

                                The Kremlin pushes so much "morally degenerate Westoids" propaganda, but then the families of the elites who lie to, rob and literally slaughter average Russians by sending them to die in Ukraine: they live in Europe

                                It's a giant farce. Average Russians need to wake up

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

                                  Right, I don't think they would nuke. We have rational reasons why but then: "the assholes making the decisions, their families live in Europe" is the most hilariously direct argument

                                  The Kremlin pushes so much "morally degenerate Westoids" propaganda, but then the families of the elites who lie to, rob and literally slaughter average Russians by sending them to die in Ukraine: they live in Europe

                                  It's a giant farce. Average Russians need to wake up

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                                  #37

                                  @benroyce

                                  And think of all the real estate, the mansions, the palaces, the yachts they have bought in Europe! 😂

                                  @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

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                                  • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                    Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                    It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                                    #38

                                    @EugeneMcParland
                                    This reminds me of the story of Vladimir Popov the 23 yo Russian who was eaten alive by a shark at a beach by an Egyptian resort in Hurghada. The attack was recorded live on video by witnesses, him screaming for his father and being thrashed around by the shark. He dodged conscription only to be eaten by shark.

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                                    • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                      @benroyce
                                      Putin's daughter used to live in Amsterdam, that is no longer the case. Amsterdam is however close enough to London and Paris to not be bombed, flattening the Dutch capital would also affect the British and French capitals.
                                      @EugeneMcParland

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                                      #39

                                      @alterelefant @benroyce @EugeneMcParland I thought Amsterdam was the biggest city, and Den Haag the capital, but maybe I'm wrong.

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                                      • paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @benroyce

                                        And think of all the real estate, the mansions, the palaces, the yachts they have bought in Europe! 😂

                                        @alterelefant @EugeneMcParland

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                                        #40

                                        @ParadeGrotesque
                                        Driving prices up for local residents who are unable to afford a regular house in particular area's of Amsterdam, London and Paris, to just name a few.
                                        @benroyce @EugeneMcParland

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                                        • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                          @wolf

                                          It's not just "putin's War", it is "russia's War"

                                          This will leave a stain on russian society and politics that will remain long after putin is gone.

                                          russia is a Terrorist State

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                                          #41

                                          @EugeneMcParland @wolf the moment you start taking it out on someone for something that they are and not something that they do you become the bad guy. you are not suggesting we should punish russians for supporting or tolerating a regime that does bad things, you are saying we should block all russians just because they are russians - that makes you a bigot.

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