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  • martouf@piaille.frM martouf@piaille.fr

    @davidrevoy no vidéo in the first results ? ^^"

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    #89

    @martouf I forgot the video! You are right.

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    • zelda@m.ai6yr.orgZ zelda@m.ai6yr.org

      @davidrevoy

      I stopped using Google years ago, and I did not replace it with Bing either. Nor did I trust DuckDuckGo since it is in America.

      Qwant — France, Europe
      https://www.qwant.com

      Ecosia — Germany, Europe
      https://www.ecosia.org

      Mojeek — England, Europe
      https://www.mojeek.com

      Swisscows — Switzerland, Europe
      https://swisscows.com

      Naver — South Korea, Asia
      https://www.naver.com

      #Search #SearchEngine #DeGoogle #DeBing

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      #90

      @Zelda @davidrevoy What do you think about StartPage?

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        @Longplay_Games @scottytrees haha, or sycophancying so much with the murderer that the inspector just join the mafia.

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        #91

        @davidrevoy @scottytrees That'd be hilarious 😄

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        • simondev@jasette.facil.servicesS simondev@jasette.facil.services

          @davidrevoy may i recommend https://noai.duckduckgo.com 😉

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          #92

          @simondev @davidrevoy very helpful thanks!

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            The Degraded Search Engine

            Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

            #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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            #93

            @davidrevoy Does the machine create the books? o: That's pretty rad! Or maybe they magically poof the books off the shelves. Even if the books themselves are trash.

            It's time to reintroduce yourself to Dewey Decimal, my dear!

            (Also I'm loving all the search engine recommendations in the comments, hehe.)

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              The Degraded Search Engine

              Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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              #94

              @davidrevoy honestly, the best long term solution I have for this lateral behavior amongst the companies is to move to a decentralized platform.

              Yacy is still a thing.
              https://yacy.net/

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              • sunbeam_rider@shitposter.worldS sunbeam_rider@shitposter.world
                @jordan @davidrevoy word of mouth will always be the best publicity. I also like feed agreggators like bubbles.town and powrss.com . But those are more for discovery than search/research.
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                #95

                @sunbeam_rider Thanks for the links!! Checking them out..

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  @simondev Nice. Thanks for the link. I had the classic DDG with AI turned off (+ublock origin and a AI blocklist), I'll check if this variant is better.

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                  #96

                  @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simondev@jasette.facil.services can ublock remove search results that are slop? if so, can you share the list?

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                  • xarvos@outerheaven.clubX xarvos@outerheaven.club

                    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simondev@jasette.facil.services can ublock remove search results that are slop? if so, can you share the list?

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                    #97

                    @xarvos @simondev I'm not sure the ublock origin really filters the results, but I use this list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist/tree/main

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      @xarvos @simondev I'm not sure the ublock origin really filters the results, but I use this list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist/tree/main

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                      #98

                      @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simondev@jasette.facil.services thanks

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        The Degraded Search Engine

                        Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

                        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                        #99

                        @davidrevoy we truly live in the dark ages of the internet 😔

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          The Degraded Search Engine

                          Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

                          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                          #100

                          @davidrevoy
                          Well they tuned it that it was unusable long before they started experimenting with AI on Google.com

                          Let's be honest, bad search results came from honest enshitifing impulses that drove the business into the direction completely by itself.

                          Why offer the best results for free if the content providers can be forced to pay for the best slots via AdWords?

                          It's organic.

                          Google doesn't need ads to ruin its search.

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                          • lmgenealogy@mstdn.caL lmgenealogy@mstdn.ca

                            @Zelda @davidrevoy What do you think about StartPage?

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                            #101

                            @lmgenealogy

                            I think the same thing about DuckDuckGo — it is American.

                            Startpage is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, which is majority-owned by System1, an American internet advertising company. It is headquartered in California, USA.

                            Someone who doesn't know better would argue that Startpage's offices are in the Netherlands, but ownership matters, and you cannot just pretend it doesn't.

                            @davidrevoy

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              The Degraded Search Engine

                              Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

                              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                              #102

                              @davidrevoy Tres vrai

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                @hacknorris @wikipedia I agree 🙂 Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!

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                                #103

                                @davidrevoy @hacknorris @wikipedia

                                Witchipedia!

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  The Degraded Search Engine

                                  Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

                                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                  #104
                                  @davidrevoy Patiently waiting for part 2 where it is revealed that There is another book on the absolute top that machine

                                  With a plausible answer but with Parrot on the book. (Basically Googles AI-Summary that gets shoved down your throat with EVERY search. )

                                  She tries the spell suggested and it explodes in her face.

                                  Also not to forget that half of the real results will be slop-seo-ridden articles

                                  (Yes I very much hate search engines by now)

                                  Also gotta love the fact the machine is literally running on goo Now thats some impressive Water-Cooling.
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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    @hacknorris @wikipedia I agree 🙂 Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!

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                                    #105

                                    @davidrevoy
                                    The Book of All Knowledge?
                                    @hacknorris @wikipedia

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                                    • zelda@m.ai6yr.orgZ zelda@m.ai6yr.org

                                      @lmgenealogy

                                      I think the same thing about DuckDuckGo — it is American.

                                      Startpage is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, which is majority-owned by System1, an American internet advertising company. It is headquartered in California, USA.

                                      Someone who doesn't know better would argue that Startpage's offices are in the Netherlands, but ownership matters, and you cannot just pretend it doesn't.

                                      @davidrevoy

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                                      #106

                                      @Zelda @davidrevoy That’s the big problem for me - it’s a full time job tracking down who ultimately owns anything of these services. And as soon as I find one that seems to be okay, someone else buys it.

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                                      • lmgenealogy@mstdn.caL lmgenealogy@mstdn.ca

                                        @Zelda @davidrevoy That’s the big problem for me - it’s a full time job tracking down who ultimately owns anything of these services. And as soon as I find one that seems to be okay, someone else buys it.

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                                        #107

                                        @lmgenealogy

                                        I think the user @Linux is the person who published this list, and that was their goal, trying to find businesses that were truly not owned by Americans. That has to be a daunting task, and I appreciate that someone went through the trouble.

                                        https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_US_Jurisdiction

                                        @davidrevoy

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          @hacknorris @wikipedia I agree 🙂 Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!

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                                          #108

                                          @davidrevoy
                                          WWTPD - What Would Terry Pratchett do?
                                          @hacknorris @wikipedia

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