The Degraded Search Engine
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I stopped using Google years ago, and I did not replace it with Bing either. Nor did I trust DuckDuckGo since it is in America.
Qwant — France, Europe
https://www.qwant.comEcosia — Germany, Europe
https://www.ecosia.orgMojeek — England, Europe
https://www.mojeek.comSwisscows — Switzerland, Europe
https://swisscows.comNaver — South Korea, Asia
https://www.naver.com@Zelda @davidrevoy What do you think about StartPage?
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@Longplay_Games @scottytrees haha, or sycophancying so much with the murderer that the inspector just join the mafia.
@davidrevoy @scottytrees That'd be hilarious
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@davidrevoy may i recommend https://noai.duckduckgo.com
@simondev @davidrevoy very helpful thanks!
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy Does the machine create the books? o: That's pretty rad! Or maybe they magically poof the books off the shelves. Even if the books themselves are trash.
It's time to reintroduce yourself to Dewey Decimal, my dear!
(Also I'm loving all the search engine recommendations in the comments, hehe.)
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy honestly, the best long term solution I have for this lateral behavior amongst the companies is to move to a decentralized platform.
Yacy is still a thing.
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@jordan @davidrevoy word of mouth will always be the best publicity. I also like feed agreggators like bubbles.town and powrss.com . But those are more for discovery than search/research.
@sunbeam_rider Thanks for the links!! Checking them out..
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@simondev Nice. Thanks for the link. I had the classic DDG with AI turned off (+ublock origin and a AI blocklist), I'll check if this variant is better.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simondev@jasette.facil.services can ublock remove search results that are slop? if so, can you share the list?
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simondev@jasette.facil.services can ublock remove search results that are slop? if so, can you share the list?
@xarvos @simondev I'm not sure the ublock origin really filters the results, but I use this list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist/tree/main
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@xarvos @simondev I'm not sure the ublock origin really filters the results, but I use this list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist/tree/main
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy we truly live in the dark ages of the internet
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy
Well they tuned it that it was unusable long before they started experimenting with AI on Google.comLet's be honest, bad search results came from honest enshitifing impulses that drove the business into the direction completely by itself.
Why offer the best results for free if the content providers can be forced to pay for the best slots via AdWords?
It's organic.
Google doesn't need ads to ruin its search.
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@Zelda @davidrevoy What do you think about StartPage?
I think the same thing about DuckDuckGo — it is American.
Startpage is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, which is majority-owned by System1, an American internet advertising company. It is headquartered in California, USA.
Someone who doesn't know better would argue that Startpage's offices are in the Netherlands, but ownership matters, and you cannot just pretend it doesn't.
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy Tres vrai
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@hacknorris @wikipedia I agree
Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!@davidrevoy @hacknorris @wikipedia
Witchipedia!
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The Degraded Search Engine
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus
@davidrevoy Patiently waiting for part 2 where it is revealed that There is another book on the absolute top that machine
With a plausible answer but with Parrot on the book. (Basically Googles AI-Summary that gets shoved down your throat with EVERY search. )
She tries the spell suggested and it explodes in her face.
Also not to forget that half of the real results will be slop-seo-ridden articles
(Yes I very much hate search engines by now)
Also gotta love the fact the machine is literally running on goo
Now thats some impressive Water-Cooling.
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@hacknorris @wikipedia I agree
Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!@davidrevoy
The Book of All Knowledge?
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I think the same thing about DuckDuckGo — it is American.
Startpage is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, which is majority-owned by System1, an American internet advertising company. It is headquartered in California, USA.
Someone who doesn't know better would argue that Startpage's offices are in the Netherlands, but ownership matters, and you cannot just pretend it doesn't.
@Zelda @davidrevoy That’s the big problem for me - it’s a full time job tracking down who ultimately owns anything of these services. And as soon as I find one that seems to be okay, someone else buys it.
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@Zelda @davidrevoy That’s the big problem for me - it’s a full time job tracking down who ultimately owns anything of these services. And as soon as I find one that seems to be okay, someone else buys it.
I think the user @Linux is the person who published this list, and that was their goal, trying to find businesses that were truly not owned by Americans. That has to be a daunting task, and I appreciate that someone went through the trouble.
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@hacknorris @wikipedia I agree
Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!@davidrevoy
WWTPD - What Would Terry Pratchett do?
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@simondev Nice. Thanks for the link. I had the classic DDG with AI turned off (+ublock origin and a AI blocklist), I'll check if this variant is better.
@davidrevoy @simondev Oh! If you haven't already, you should add uBlacklist. If you have an AI blocklist, uBlock Origin will stop you from being able to click the links, but uBlacklist will stop them from showing up in the search results at all.
