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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    "But we do know from Secretary #Rubio that #Netanyahu decided to strike #Iran. And so here we are, doing what Prime Minister Netanyahu said he wanted to do for 40 years, which was to attack Iran. It's just Netanyahu had not found a president stupid enough to drag the #UnitedStates into that #war before. And now Donald #Trump has done it, they don't have a clue as to what the end game is"

    - Senator #ChrisVanHollen of #Maryland

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    #12

    @benroyce I thought Van Hollen was smarter than this. I live in Maryland. I will sit out the Senate election.
    The US has agency. Plenty of US Presidents have told Israel no. Ask Obama. Ask Biden. I didn't vote for Trump and I don't support this war. But I sure as shit don't believe the US was bamboozled into it. The Trump admin chose it. Fuck Van Hollen for not having the strength to say this. He has lost my vote.

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    • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

      @benroyce I thought Van Hollen was smarter than this. I live in Maryland. I will sit out the Senate election.
      The US has agency. Plenty of US Presidents have told Israel no. Ask Obama. Ask Biden. I didn't vote for Trump and I don't support this war. But I sure as shit don't believe the US was bamboozled into it. The Trump admin chose it. Fuck Van Hollen for not having the strength to say this. He has lost my vote.

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      #13

      @tobie1 yes. Trump chose to go along with netanyahu, because trump is stupid. Which what van hollen is saying

      What the hell is wrong with you. Are you a troll?

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @tobie1 yes. Trump chose to go along with netanyahu, because trump is stupid. Which what van hollen is saying

        What the hell is wrong with you. Are you a troll?

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        #14

        @benroyce What does "go along" mean? Foreign leaders make requests to American Presidents all the time. This is not unique to any one country. And Presidents decide with due deliberation whether a request is worth honoring or not. When we don't like those decisions, we blame the President for them. Chris Van Hollen could have done this. Instead he chose to fan the flames of the conspiracy theory that a foreign country is dictating the policy of the US. That's an incendiary statement IMO.

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        • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

          @benroyce What does "go along" mean? Foreign leaders make requests to American Presidents all the time. This is not unique to any one country. And Presidents decide with due deliberation whether a request is worth honoring or not. When we don't like those decisions, we blame the President for them. Chris Van Hollen could have done this. Instead he chose to fan the flames of the conspiracy theory that a foreign country is dictating the policy of the US. That's an incendiary statement IMO.

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          #15

          @tobie1

          Ok i think youre a moron or a troll. He's calling the president stupid. He's blaming trump. You have issues

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @tobie1

            Ok i think youre a moron or a troll. He's calling the president stupid. He's blaming trump. You have issues

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            #16

            @benroyce We disagree. That is fine. Reasonable people can have different opinions. I won't call you a moron because I don't respond to people that way.

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            • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

              @benroyce I thought Van Hollen was smarter than this. I live in Maryland. I will sit out the Senate election.
              The US has agency. Plenty of US Presidents have told Israel no. Ask Obama. Ask Biden. I didn't vote for Trump and I don't support this war. But I sure as shit don't believe the US was bamboozled into it. The Trump admin chose it. Fuck Van Hollen for not having the strength to say this. He has lost my vote.

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              #17

              @tobie1 🙄

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              • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

                @benroyce We disagree. That is fine. Reasonable people can have different opinions. I won't call you a moron because I don't respond to people that way.

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                #18

                @tobie1 we don't disagree. what you're saying is embarrassingly stupid

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  "But we do know from Secretary #Rubio that #Netanyahu decided to strike #Iran. And so here we are, doing what Prime Minister Netanyahu said he wanted to do for 40 years, which was to attack Iran. It's just Netanyahu had not found a president stupid enough to drag the #UnitedStates into that #war before. And now Donald #Trump has done it, they don't have a clue as to what the end game is"

                  - Senator #ChrisVanHollen of #Maryland

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                  #19

                  @benroyce I'm curious what the end game is supposed to be for Israel?

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                  • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce What does "go along" mean? Foreign leaders make requests to American Presidents all the time. This is not unique to any one country. And Presidents decide with due deliberation whether a request is worth honoring or not. When we don't like those decisions, we blame the President for them. Chris Van Hollen could have done this. Instead he chose to fan the flames of the conspiracy theory that a foreign country is dictating the policy of the US. That's an incendiary statement IMO.

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                    #20

                    @tobie1 @benroyce

                    Netanyahu is good friends with the Kushner family due to Charles Kushner's ties to AIPAC. So much of a donor that Netanyahu would often stay at the Kushner family home.

                    MBS sees that the only way for the US to attack Iran (their sworn enemy. Sunni vs Shia) is through Trump. Going through Jared Kushner is the quickest way with a $2 billion "investment" to Jared.

                    https://stljewishlight.org/world-news/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes/

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                    • starluna@mastodon.socialS starluna@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce I'm curious what the end game is supposed to be for Israel?

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                      #21

                      @starluna regime change. How, i don't know. For the usa, or rather trump? Whatever distracts from the epstein files

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @starluna regime change. How, i don't know. For the usa, or rather trump? Whatever distracts from the epstein files

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                        #22

                        @benroyce With no guarantee about who leads the new regime?

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                        • starluna@mastodon.socialS starluna@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce With no guarantee about who leads the new regime?

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                          #23

                          @starluna i dont know. You either believe mossad is playing 9d chess or you believe they're just as "start shooting we'll figure it out later" as the americans

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                          • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                            @tobie1 @benroyce

                            Netanyahu is good friends with the Kushner family due to Charles Kushner's ties to AIPAC. So much of a donor that Netanyahu would often stay at the Kushner family home.

                            MBS sees that the only way for the US to attack Iran (their sworn enemy. Sunni vs Shia) is through Trump. Going through Jared Kushner is the quickest way with a $2 billion "investment" to Jared.

                            https://stljewishlight.org/world-news/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes/

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                            #24

                            @tobie1 @benroyce Add in a $400 million plane from Qatar and you see where this is going.

                            These countries can't take on Iran by themselves so they finally found someone corrupt enough to take the bribes.

                            This war with Iran has been brewing for a long time and it has *nothing* to do with the US.

                            And since the US and Israel unexpectedly attacked Iran *during negotiations*, Iran is crashing out and attacking anyone who has anything to do with America in the Middle East

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                            • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                              @tobie1 @benroyce

                              Netanyahu is good friends with the Kushner family due to Charles Kushner's ties to AIPAC. So much of a donor that Netanyahu would often stay at the Kushner family home.

                              MBS sees that the only way for the US to attack Iran (their sworn enemy. Sunni vs Shia) is through Trump. Going through Jared Kushner is the quickest way with a $2 billion "investment" to Jared.

                              https://stljewishlight.org/world-news/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes/

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                              #25

                              @hasani @tobie1

                              Yup

                              It's all graft and corruption. The USA is destroyed by plutocracy

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                              • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                                @tobie1 @benroyce Add in a $400 million plane from Qatar and you see where this is going.

                                These countries can't take on Iran by themselves so they finally found someone corrupt enough to take the bribes.

                                This war with Iran has been brewing for a long time and it has *nothing* to do with the US.

                                And since the US and Israel unexpectedly attacked Iran *during negotiations*, Iran is crashing out and attacking anyone who has anything to do with America in the Middle East

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                                #26

                                @tobie1 @benroyce So yeah.. foreign countries are dictating foreign policy for the US.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @starluna i dont know. You either believe mossad is playing 9d chess or you believe they're just as "start shooting we'll figure it out later" as the americans

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                                  #27

                                  @benroyce The latter feels more likely. Especially given Netanyahu's desire to stay out of prison.

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                                  • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                                    @tobie1 @benroyce So yeah.. foreign countries are dictating foreign policy for the US.

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                                    #28

                                    @hasani @tobie1 well i knew the usa was in decline but i guess we're going to speedrun it

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                                    • hasani@my-spaces.socialH hasani@my-spaces.social

                                      @tobie1 @benroyce

                                      Netanyahu is good friends with the Kushner family due to Charles Kushner's ties to AIPAC. So much of a donor that Netanyahu would often stay at the Kushner family home.

                                      MBS sees that the only way for the US to attack Iran (their sworn enemy. Sunni vs Shia) is through Trump. Going through Jared Kushner is the quickest way with a $2 billion "investment" to Jared.

                                      https://stljewishlight.org/world-news/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes/

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                                      #29

                                      @hasani @benroyce I don't disagree that the Kushners (Charles and Jared) were pushing for a war with Iran. Public office for all the members of this (mal)administration seems to mean one thing only: grift. It's sickening.

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                                      • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

                                        @hasani @benroyce I don't disagree that the Kushners (Charles and Jared) were pushing for a war with Iran. Public office for all the members of this (mal)administration seems to mean one thing only: grift. It's sickening.

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                                        #30

                                        @tobie1 @hasani

                                        right. they are corrupt. which makes them to blame

                                        so what they hell was that comment of yours above?

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                                        • tobie1@mastodon.socialT tobie1@mastodon.social

                                          @hasani @benroyce I don't disagree that the Kushners (Charles and Jared) were pushing for a war with Iran. Public office for all the members of this (mal)administration seems to mean one thing only: grift. It's sickening.

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                                          #31

                                          @tobie1 @benroyce Add in the zionists that AIPAC has been cultivating for decades and mix in some christian "end times" weirdos and this war is what you get.

                                          Almost inevitable when you think about it. Everyone is using each other and its already going badly.

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