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  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

    sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.comS This user is from outside of this forum
    sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @zackwhittaker I was just about to toot about the weirdness of this feature. It has a summary "that let's you go back in time for 15 seconds", but also, somehow, "Privacy is protected at every step. These audio intelligence features do not create or store audio recordings."

    These back to back statements are at odds with each other unless there's some slimey technicality legalese that allow them to be true like 'we write a transcript which technically isn't an audio recording'

    nurglerider@mastodon.socialN phaedral@beige.partyP ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL ohir@social.vivaldi.netO 9 Replies Last reply
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    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

      ozu@infosec.exchangeO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @zackwhittaker absolutely. In par with the pervert glasses.

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      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

        _scottd@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @zackwhittaker You’re not wrong. I think as a society we’re about to have to navigate a whole lot of invasive technology. Be it Meta’s pervert glasses or an always on bugging device in someone’s pocket.

        mordenacus@mastodon.socialM jcurioso@mastodon.socialJ 2 Replies Last reply
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        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

          hannukle@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @zackwhittaker Yeah, how private that would be when another person in the room has the device.

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          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

            jblake@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @zackwhittaker Wouldn't it just be easier to ask the waiter to repeat the specials?

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            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

              Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

              orange@hachyderm.ioO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @zackwhittaker Agreed! I find it even more concerning on the watch which is more easily concealed.
              Their touting of privacy seems to only concern the owner and ignores that of everyone else around them.
              Especially appalling in situations where people are asked for personal info such as banks, medical offices, etc.
              What an incredibly tone deaf feature in our current world.

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              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                radieschen@climatejustice.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                radieschen@climatejustice.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #8

                @zackwhittaker well at least no annoying workouts until April

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                • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                  Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                  ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @zackwhittaker "End-to-end encrypted"

                  End 1: your device; End 2: Apple's servers. Checkmate privacy!

                  omimesis@mastodon.socialO 1 Reply Last reply
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                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                    nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @zackwhittaker
                    Illegal to secretly record more than one person in Canada, if laws still apply to tech.

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                    • nmba@mstdn.caN nmba@mstdn.ca

                      @zackwhittaker
                      Illegal to secretly record more than one person in Canada, if laws still apply to tech.

                      shadows@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @NMBA @zackwhittaker no idea how it applies in Canada, but I seem to remember reading that there’s a device (a TV, I think) that already does this and informs the owner that it’s their responsibility to tell anyone that could be recorded. Same old pass the buck bullshit will likely be used by Apple.

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                      • orange@hachyderm.ioO orange@hachyderm.io

                        @zackwhittaker Agreed! I find it even more concerning on the watch which is more easily concealed.
                        Their touting of privacy seems to only concern the owner and ignores that of everyone else around them.
                        Especially appalling in situations where people are asked for personal info such as banks, medical offices, etc.
                        What an incredibly tone deaf feature in our current world.

                        mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mahryekuh@hachyderm.io
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                        #12

                        @orange @zackwhittaker Think of it… a watch that records all sounds, glasses that record all you see, both concealed, working in tandem.

                        I can see some accessibility merit for it, but bottom-line: this stuff is dangerous and we shouldn't want it.

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                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                          sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @zackwhittaker

                          the end of privacy is the end of the Private Citizen

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                          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                            nomi@norden.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @zackwhittaker don’t they already do this when listening for „Hey Siri“?

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                            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                              Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                              pavel@social.kernel.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15
                              @zackwhittaker Should not both sides agree to recording conversation?
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                              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                                templailloahi@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @zackwhittaker So we have the PervertGlasses and now comes the StalkerPhone

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                                • shadows@beige.partyS shadows@beige.party

                                  @NMBA @zackwhittaker no idea how it applies in Canada, but I seem to remember reading that there’s a device (a TV, I think) that already does this and informs the owner that it’s their responsibility to tell anyone that could be recorded. Same old pass the buck bullshit will likely be used by Apple.

                                  nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @shadows @zackwhittaker
                                  Yep, and the law doesn't matter unless you want to present evidence in court.

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                                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                                    plantagolabs@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @zackwhittaker Big techbro will be watching you.

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                                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                                      jefframnani@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @zackwhittaker it’s also disappointing because it plays into existing conspiracy theories about “your phone is listening to you all the time”.

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                                      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                                        j_f@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @zackwhittaker Here’s the support page with additional details.
                                        https://support.apple.com/en-us/148354

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                                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                                          anniebuddy@thecanadian.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @zackwhittaker

                                          Who wants to design the phone box for anyone who enters my house to put their phone while they visit?

                                          Seriously. I am so not tolerating this.

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