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  3. i've heard a few times that "waymos will make streets safer" so i went and looked up sf's traffic fatality statistics and they're pretty much identical

i've heard a few times that "waymos will make streets safer" so i went and looked up sf's traffic fatality statistics and they're pretty much identical

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  • tef@mastodon.socialT tef@mastodon.social

    we're destroying the open web

    we're burning down the closest thing i've ever seen in my life to the library of alexandria

    and people are explaining to me how warm it keeps their hands, and maybe, in the future, the ashes will contain the secrets of the universe

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    #79

    @tef

    My website is getting _hammered_ by AI scraper bot networks. I had to upgrade my hosting plan twice last year, just to keep outages at a semi-acceptable level.

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    • tef@mastodon.socialT tef@mastodon.social

      sure enough machine translation has reasonably proven itself as a mostly public good, albeit at the expense of the translation industry

      so i am aware that good things can come with bad prices, but i haven't really seen much good and i am seeing a lot of bad things

      it literally breaks my heart that the public web now sits behind a proof of work system, forcing strangers to mine coins to buy access to webpages

      because a bunch of tech companies are desperate for an poison-free training set

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      #80

      @tef mhh I'm afraid it currently looks like a net public good because the detrimental effects will just take a generation or two to materialize.

      You know, once the first generation that never had to learn a foreign language in order to communicate or consume media will become adults I suspect there will be measurable effects, cause language shapes reality

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      • tef@mastodon.socialT tef@mastodon.social

        we're destroying the open web

        we're burning down the closest thing i've ever seen in my life to the library of alexandria

        and people are explaining to me how warm it keeps their hands, and maybe, in the future, the ashes will contain the secrets of the universe

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        #81

        @tef It breaks my heart.

        There are many, many things in this world that break my heart, but this is one of them.

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        • tef@mastodon.socialT tef@mastodon.social

          we're destroying the open web

          we're burning down the closest thing i've ever seen in my life to the library of alexandria

          and people are explaining to me how warm it keeps their hands, and maybe, in the future, the ashes will contain the secrets of the universe

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          #82

          @tef I am working for the opposite. And I think this will be successful.

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          • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

            @tef I think it gives people more options than just a bus or drive or bike and any safety improvements, however small, are welcomed. Imagine when Uber just started until flash ahead and waymo basically replaced human drivers. It will be half the time to get to buses with 15-30 people.

            I wonder if the bus drivers have a union

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            #83

            @MeaningfulBits @tef All that does is increase traffic/sprawl and make transport less efficient and dense. Car centrism is a disease, and waymo is only spreading more of it.

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            • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

              @tef

              My website is getting _hammered_ by AI scraper bot networks. I had to upgrade my hosting plan twice last year, just to keep outages at a semi-acceptable level.

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              #84

              @juergen_hubert @tef You need a tarpit then. An endless generator of noise, rate limited, to keep the bots busy.

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              • deftpunk@fosstodon.orgD deftpunk@fosstodon.org

                @tef I'm interested in these stats. Can you point me at your sources?

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                #85

                @tef So this is *a* source: https://www.nhtsa.gov/file-downloads?p=nhtsa/downloads/FARS/

                I don't know if it's what you are referencing.

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                • Q qybat@batchats.net

                  @juergen_hubert @tef You need a tarpit then. An endless generator of noise, rate limited, to keep the bots busy.

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                  #86

                  @Qybat @tef

                  Right now, the situation is manageable once more. But I will keep that in mind if it gets worse again.

                  (I am _not_ an experienced website admin, and am loath to change more in the setup for my sites than absolutely necessary.)

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                  • gisgeek@floss.socialG gisgeek@floss.social

                    @tef unfortunately, the original Big Web Dream began to die with the advent of mobile-first and social media. Now its death is only accelerating. Read @timbl's book about that.

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                    #87

                    @gisgeek @tef Don't let the nostalgia get too strong. The old web was an absolute cesspit of sexism, racism, idiocy and edgelord posing. But it was our cesspit, full of genuine human idiots, and trolls who did it for fun rather than as algorithmicly-optimised ragebait content.

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                    • tef@mastodon.socialT tef@mastodon.social

                      i've heard a few times that "waymos will make streets safer" so i went and looked up sf's traffic fatality statistics and they're pretty much identical

                      i mean, there is a slight increase over the last two years but there's sufficient variance to avoid suggesting a trend

                      as i understand it, waymos tend to take people off busses and other forms of transit, rather than out of their own cars

                      so i'm doubtful it will lower deaths on the road, just the number of busses

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                      #88

                      @tef I find it easy to imagine driverless taxis circling the city at random if someone works out that low-speed driving costs less per hour than paying for parking.

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