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  • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

    "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

    As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

    From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

    david@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @c_9 I agree. I think there is a reasonable balance to be had, where would could continue to produce oil for export so long as there is a market (recognizing that the market is going to die fairly quickly due to economics of renewables), while we proactively transition to wind/sun/batteries and find ways to enter the renewable hardware markets.

    I’m more immediately concerned about our nuclear fixation.

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    • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

      "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

      As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

      From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

      scubyw@mastodon.nzS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @c_9 https://mstdn.ca/@c_9/116810759996942975
      In NZ we have a choice. Free power evening/nights during the week or free power in the weekend from 9-5. (We choose the weekend and it saves us between 10 - 20% on the power bill.

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      • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

        "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

        As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

        From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

        cawguy@thecanadian.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @c_9 Free electricity would be great, but I’d even be happy with the elimination of TOU pricing. Imagine affordable electricity, when you’re awake, and actually need to use it. That’s where solar/wind power really looks appealing to me.

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        • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

          "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

          As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

          From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

          williamrobert@toad.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @c_9 Green with envy.

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          • williamrobert@toad.socialW williamrobert@toad.social

            @c_9 Green with envy.

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            #6

            @WilliamRobert @c_9

            Came here to say this. Irish energy is the most expensive in Europe. It's eye watering.

            Not connected*; 22% of our energy output goes to data centres.

            *apparently

            https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0610/1517667-cso-figures-data-centre-electricity-usage/

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            • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

              "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

              As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

              From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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              #7

              @c_9 Well done, Australia! 3 hours a day is enough to keep most cars powered for daily trips. imagine the reduction in pollution!

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              • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @c_9

                The nice thing about alternative energies is if China stops exporting alternative energy generation or the copper wire or the aluminum or cement you can go for 10 or 15 years before you get desperate again. most geopolitical crisis are resolved before that.

                Refining copper, aluminum, and plastic depend on oil based chemicals. Most basic inputs to industry use fossil resources. China is a single point of failure in the global economy.

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                • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                  "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                  As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                  From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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                  idiot300@mastodon.sdf.org
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                  #9

                  @c_9 maybe, but isnt Canada's electricity is just much cheaper and greener than Australia?

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                  • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                    "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                    As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                    From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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                    #10
                    @Cameron MacLeod the absolute horror for german energy corporations like #RWE or #EON ... chep energy?
                    vade retro satanas
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                    • cawguy@thecanadian.socialC cawguy@thecanadian.social

                      @c_9 Free electricity would be great, but I’d even be happy with the elimination of TOU pricing. Imagine affordable electricity, when you’re awake, and actually need to use it. That’s where solar/wind power really looks appealing to me.

                      lovestha@floss.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @CAWguy @c_9 I really wish TOU pricing was available to me, I'm an Australian, living in Melbourne and my shitty distributor doesn't allow retailers to offer it to me. There is plenty I could do to shift lots of our usage to cheaper times, but nope, not allowed.

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                      • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                        "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                        As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                        From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                        lovestha@floss.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lovestha@floss.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @c_9 "most" doesn't even cover everyone living in our biggest city 😞

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                        • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                          "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                          As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                          From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                          modernmaslow@techhub.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @c_9 Are #greenwashing and Substack that far apart?

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                          • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                            "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                            As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                            From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                            sunnjax@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @c_9 I love the line: “And when governments do their job well, the results can be amazing.”

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                            • lovestha@floss.socialL lovestha@floss.social

                              @CAWguy @c_9 I really wish TOU pricing was available to me, I'm an Australian, living in Melbourne and my shitty distributor doesn't allow retailers to offer it to me. There is plenty I could do to shift lots of our usage to cheaper times, but nope, not allowed.

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                              #15

                              @LovesTha I can’t deny that TOU pricing makes it possible to lower my energy bill, but when doing shift work, it can be a struggle to stay up late enough to have a shower or do the laundry/dishes. It’s seasonal too, so even though it’s been cool enough here not to even contemplate turning on the A/C, the model dictates that in another 20 minutes for me, it’ll be switching over to high pricing for the day. I do understand your point though.

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                              • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                                "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                                As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                                From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                                cologneghoul@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @c_9 Even the CEO of Audi said that EVs are "simply the better technology"

                                Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/772376/audi-boss-evs-better-technology-quote/

                                Standing in the way of innovation in Solar cells and wind turbines to go back to the ancient and inefficient fossil fuels is ignorant.

                                While i'm generelly against the Chinese government. The fact that China invests tons into solar power, while the EU and US are wanting to go back to fossil fuels is laughable.

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                                • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                                  "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                                  As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                                  From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

                                  navin_69@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @c_9 Affordable clean energy is a goal many countries are working toward. It'll be interesting to see the long-term results.

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                                  • david@cosocial.caD david@cosocial.ca

                                    @c_9 I agree. I think there is a reasonable balance to be had, where would could continue to produce oil for export so long as there is a market (recognizing that the market is going to die fairly quickly due to economics of renewables), while we proactively transition to wind/sun/batteries and find ways to enter the renewable hardware markets.

                                    I’m more immediately concerned about our nuclear fixation.

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                                    @david @c_9 I'm pretty surprised tbh. I figured that since most of the electricity is already carbon free, we'd be more focused on EVs and heat pumps.

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                                    • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                                      "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                                      As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                                      From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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                                      #19

                                      @c_9 Except in the uk where the insane system we have says renewables are sold at the price of gas generation. Because we are led by Donkeys... And that's being polite.

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                                      • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                                        "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                                        As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                                        From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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                                        #20

                                        @c_9 It had to be a substack post? 😞

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

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                                        • c_9@mstdn.caC c_9@mstdn.ca

                                          "Beginning next week, most Australians get free electricity for three hours every afternoon. That's what happens when you build out wind, sun, and batteries

                                          As the cost of clean energy keeps plummeting, it gets more and more obvious how much money we waste, and how much financial risk we incur, by staying with fossil fuel."

                                          From https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/how-about-free-is-that-affordable

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                                          @c_9

                                          General question, does anyone have good references to large scale electrical storage technologies currently deployed or about to be deployed and how they interface with the grids across the world?

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