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  3. Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

    https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

    Archive link for posterity:

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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    #52

    @JadedBlueEyes This takes it from "lazy and disappointing" to "actively malicious". One quick apology blogpost would fix this, but they're doubling down, aren't they?

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    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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      #53

      @JadedBlueEyes oh, what a disappointment. I don't understand that much so I trusted their post 😳

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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        #54

        @JadedBlueEyes @dcousineau Nothing like :checks notes: three THOUSAND lines BS in one file: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/blob/main/src/admin/dashboard.ts and it's not even good code.

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        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

          Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

          https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

          Archive link for posterity:

          https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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          #55

          @JadedBlueEyes I recently learned that GitHub allows one to view the activity on a repo, and you can limit it to show force pushes only, which in turn allows you to view the diff between the two states too, even if they span multiple commits.

          It's fun to see what kind of things some companies try to hide. (edit: like the original history, which has some fun commits in there!)

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          • josh@joshbutts.socialJ josh@joshbutts.social

            @JadedBlueEyes @dcousineau Nothing like :checks notes: three THOUSAND lines BS in one file: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/blob/main/src/admin/dashboard.ts and it's not even good code.

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            #56

            @josh @dcousineau oh god I didn't even look at the client code

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            • networkexception@bonk.expertN networkexception@bonk.expert

              @JadedBlueEyes OH: @49016 did that for fedi before it was cool

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              #57

              @networkexception @JadedBlueEyes LMAOOO they're really turning its shitposts into satirical reality

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              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                #58

                @JadedBlueEyes this is a great case study in how AI can be used to create something of actually inferior quality real fast and just trumpet the fact of its existence as a real improvement on the old ways.

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                • petunia@fedi.transgender.ingP petunia@fedi.transgender.ing

                  @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt worst game of spot the difference i have ever played

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                  #59

                  @petunia @JadedBlueEyes so like, on an emotional level I understand why people hate ORMs, but on a "people are very bad at databases" level ..................

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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                    https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                    Archive link for posterity:

                    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                    #60
                    @JadedBlueEyes The comments on this commits are absolutely hilarious. Well deserved 😄
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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      Rather than implementing the critical state resolution algorithm that's the core of Matrix, they just directly insert the latest state into the database. That'll instantly lead to diverging views of the room and incompatibility with every other implementation - and it's also a massive security hole.

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                      #61

                      @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt NOT THE STATE RES ALGORITHM 😭

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                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                        @josh @dcousineau oh god I didn't even look at the client code

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                        #62

                        @JadedBlueEyes @josh oh woooow, using ...innerHtml = `<...>`, inCREDIBLE the kids these days couldn't understand

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                        • wyldtom@chaos.socialW wyldtom@chaos.social

                          @JadedBlueEyes The comments under this commit make it at least a bit funnier

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                          #63

                          @wyldtom @JadedBlueEyes for me the funniest part is

                          > a serverless architecture where operations disappear, costs scale to zero when idle, and every connection is protected by post-quantum cryptography by default.

                          I don't know about the post-quantum cryptography, but I'll grant them that their homeserver is serveless and costs scale to zero (on account of it not existing)

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                            #64

                            @JadedBlueEyes ah yes, AI. The technology of the future right?

                            ...right??

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                            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                              Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                              https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                              #65

                              @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt

                              What in absolute fuck is a serverless server

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                              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                #66

                                @JadedBlueEyes
                                They seem to do there Global deployment this way...

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                                • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

                                  @wyldtom @JadedBlueEyes for me the funniest part is

                                  > a serverless architecture where operations disappear, costs scale to zero when idle, and every connection is protected by post-quantum cryptography by default.

                                  I don't know about the post-quantum cryptography, but I'll grant them that their homeserver is serveless and costs scale to zero (on account of it not existing)

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                                  #67

                                  @elilla@transmom.love @wyldtom@chaos.social @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt Not even a quantum computer can get your data from the system without authorisation.

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                    #68

                                    @JadedBlueEyes aewwwww2 crap

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                                    • flesh@transfem.socialF flesh@transfem.social

                                      @elilla@transmom.love @wyldtom@chaos.social @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt Not even a quantum computer can get your data from the system without authorisation.

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                                      #69

                                      @flesh @wyldtom @JadedBlueEyes Cloudflare truly has mastered the definite Matrix security approach (not sending messages at all)

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                                      • algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.clubA algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club

                                        @JadedBlueEyes I recently learned that GitHub allows one to view the activity on a repo, and you can limit it to show force pushes only, which in turn allows you to view the diff between the two states too, even if they span multiple commits.

                                        It's fun to see what kind of things some companies try to hide. (edit: like the original history, which has some fun commits in there!)

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                                        #70

                                        @algernon @JadedBlueEyes "Remove PII" is always a banger of a commit to have public. 👌 😂

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                                        • joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech

                                          @JadedBlueEyes This is almost a minor criticism in comparison to all the other crap, but I am so sick of companies calling things 'serverless' when what they really mean is "servers, but only ours and they're really opaquely billed and impossible to replace with someone else's servers so you're stuck with us, and also they're managed in a totally custom way so none of your normal sysadmin skills are portable to it but you still have to learn how to manage it"

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                                          #71

                                          @joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt It seems minor in comparison, because we're so far down along the tracks, but it's still a line we never should have allowed to be crossed.

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