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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

    "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

    https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

    kmck@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @evacide Sad that some execs will lose their jobs over this colossal error. Surely?

    fullywoolly@mastodon.socialF ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG stevenray@sfba.socialS aburka@hachyderm.ioA 4 Replies Last reply
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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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      #3

      @evacide a real quote! he said it out loud! jfc

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

        "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

        https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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        #4

        @evacide “The company said it would not abandon its use of AI, but plans to now use it in conjunction with human oversight and experience.” 🤡

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

          "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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          #5

          @evacide I am of an age. I can’t read a story like this without thinking about Mr. Mom.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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            #6

            @evacide

            When something is ingested, it almost never resurfaces as a "high-quality product". 💩

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

              "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

              https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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              #7

              @evacide they thought that because the snake-oil salesmen told them so. At least they're figuring it out now.

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              • christianrickert@23.socialC christianrickert@23.social

                @evacide

                When something is ingested, it almost never resurfaces as a "high-quality product". 💩

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                #8

                @christianrickert
                Who does Ford think they are? Civet cats?
                @evacide

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                  "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                  https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                  #9

                  @evacide The goose was not valued.

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                  • enema_cowboy@dotnet.socialE enema_cowboy@dotnet.social

                    @christianrickert
                    Who does Ford think they are? Civet cats?
                    @evacide

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                    #10

                    @Enema_Cowboy @evacide

                    Exactly! 🫘

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                      #11

                      @evacide Wankers. That's Ford though - Found On Rubbish Dumps. They've always been shit.

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                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                        Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                        "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                        https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                        #12

                        @evacide <nelson>HA HA! </nelson>

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                          "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                          #13

                          @evacide

                          This is a very useful article to have & is helpful in my current LLM-gen-AI work. Thank you very much for sharing it, as I'd surely have missed it otherwise.

                          Meta: it seems to me “greybeard” is an inappropriately gendered term. I don't see that term used in the article you linked to, and I note you put it in quotes, maybe to acknowledge that, but couldn't another term be used that doesn't refer to something usually identified gender attributes.

                          Veteran might be a good term here.

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                            @evacide
                            It's almost like all of us across different companies have been telling the executive class that that doesn't work this whole time!

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                            • bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org

                              @evacide

                              This is a very useful article to have & is helpful in my current LLM-gen-AI work. Thank you very much for sharing it, as I'd surely have missed it otherwise.

                              Meta: it seems to me “greybeard” is an inappropriately gendered term. I don't see that term used in the article you linked to, and I note you put it in quotes, maybe to acknowledge that, but couldn't another term be used that doesn't refer to something usually identified gender attributes.

                              Veteran might be a good term here.

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                              @bkuhn It's right there in the second paragraph:

                              The US automaker hired over 350 veteran engineers, referred to internally as “gray beards”, over the past three years in order to address mistakes made by automated systems.

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                @evacide You have many followers, please help me share my pinned post. I need to buy the medication.

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                  "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                  https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                  #17

                                  @evacide I read that as Ford spent 3 years moving to AI quality control in effort to return to the craptastic qualify of the 1970s US automotive industry

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Qj58o87sY

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                    "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                    https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                    #18

                                    @evacide and why did Ford believe that?
                                    - wishful thinking + no regard for their employees + lies from those selling #GenAI

                                    #LLM

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                      @evacide Sadly they are rehiring only the senior engineers because they are betting after just a couple more years and just a bit more training, they won't need any engineers. They don't need to invest in the next generation of "grey beards".

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                        "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                        https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                        @evacide I hope they had to pay a premium to lure them back...

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                                        • jamesmarshall@sfba.socialJ jamesmarshall@sfba.social

                                          @evacide they thought that because the snake-oil salesmen told them so. At least they're figuring it out now.

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                                          @jamesmarshall @evacide

                                          Isn't one the reason why executive "merit" the big bucks is that they aren't so easily fooled by snake-oil peddlers?

                                          "Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, another to listen."
                                          -Homer Simpson

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