Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @kmck @evacide Oh, I’m certain that if I’m careless at work or just unlucky, there will be consequences.
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide Sadly this only works because cars have such strict quality/safety requirements (as a whole.) Most sectors don't. Still, I hope it sends a powerful enough message that others might take note.
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@evacide Wankers. That's Ford though - Found On Rubbish Dumps. They've always been shit.
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@evacide Labor has always been and will always be the component of business that business hates most and works hardest to literally eliminate.
The cost of human labor is the biggest drain on business profits, and what business spends most of its efforts on eliminating, in every way it can imagine, and make legal, or at least weakly enforced.
@ricardoharvin @evacide It’s almost like they think market demand just magically appears. How many shitty trucks can you sell to a handful of billionaires?
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide Old Hank Ford was a shitty old guy, but he knew where his market was coming from.
A good example of Hardin’s Tragedy of the Commons was billionaires thinking other billionaires will pay their customers.
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide a chance for Ford engineers to make an old joke become real
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@evacide Sad that some execs will lose their jobs over this colossal error. Surely?
@kmck @evacide yeah exactly this. There was no mistake, everyone know exactly what they were doing. Bunch of people got a big fat bonus for the initial layoffs and won't see any blowback for the consequences.
Grinds my gears that everyone is parroting the "haha, we didn't know, oopsie so silly!" line
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide the ones with shares don't know nothing about production, for them it's only a money in money out process
For this reason ai for them seems a so good solution
But still they don't get it, for them it's all a issue of abstract numbers -
@nazokiyoubinbou @Arapalla @brad @evacide I had a decent Ford once. It was made by Kia.
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide I guess they couldn't afford us white beards
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide Hey
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Isn't one the reason why executive "merit" the big bucks is that they aren't so easily fooled by snake-oil peddlers?
"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, another to listen."
-Homer Simpson@Enema_Cowboy Meritocracy is a superposition of two reasonings:
This managing job is so simple that it doesn't matter that it's given to somebody's nephew.
This managing job is so hard that we have to weed out everybody who has wasted their career in non-managing jobs.
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @kmck @evacide Oh, I’m certain that if I’m careless at work or just unlucky, there will be consequences.
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My rate for training myself out of a job is my usual rate plus the value of the job I'm training myself out of. So the negotiation starts at 2x my pay, and then we talk about working conditions.
@petealexharris @unattributed @evacide you need to value the goose
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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.
"Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html
@evacide I don't trust you, I maintain zero trust on all things!
Thanks for the intel btw -
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although working on Fords, especially XB Falcon clutches from my memory, is a pain in the arse. They weren't built to be kind on mechanics' backs or hands considering how often they needed major-ish repairs.