Each time a new privacy-invasive feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.
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@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? 
I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon Don't use it.
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@Bowreality
The work you're doing if alerting people is really great. Many have no chance of getting alerted . Good enough you have done your honest part and now their decisions will determine the consequences of their lives. Did you alert you children also?@nuwagaba2 I don’t deal much with kids
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Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
What I see is if you don't adopt their tech voluntarily, they will make sure you can't avoid it.
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@nuwagaba2 I don’t deal much with kids
@Bowreality
You made a right decision. The way this world is running crazy, dealing with kids isn't a good idea. Do you know how to grow your own food? -
@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
@Em0nM4stodon @nakdim People are cancelling paid Discord Nitro subscriptions en masse. Hitting discord straight in the wallet.
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@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
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Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
@Em0nM4stodon It's bleak. I wish there would be a way to decentralize the internet again.
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@knowprose
It's about fighting hunger in my community, I work with 12 young volunteer farmers to make this a reality by growing food for the needy, educating local farmers with advanced agricultural skills to help them improve on their production as well as equipping beginner farmers with required tools like seeds , fertilisers and organic pestcides to help them produce the best out of their gardens as well combat climate change through tree planting. Do you have such initiatives there?@nuwagaba2 not that I know of. There are stabs at it that have been inconsistent for years.
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@nuwagaba2 not that I know of. There are stabs at it that have been inconsistent for years.
@knowprose
Okay, unfortunately, our initiative is under a crisis where we're having no land to do our activities after being forced to evacuate the land we have rented for two years to do our activities. We're struggling to get our own land amd proceed with our activities to make our dream a reality. You can support is via a gofund.me page below with this linkWould you mind having a video chat someday?
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Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
@Em0nM4stodon
Opposing is what i did and it worked:
https://mastodon.nl/@danie1/116043452309516806 -
Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
@Em0nM4stodon Absolutely spot on with this one. And in regards to the Discord news, which I'm imagining prompted this excellent post, among many other instances of this stuff going on, they can treat me like a teen, and I will treat them with the door.
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@Em0nM4stodon It's bleak. I wish there would be a way to decentralize the internet again.
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@Em0nM4stodon How do we protest? In this case it's Discord turn to an arse... How do we make a stand against it? Stop using it is the bet option ofc, but I don't expect that most people will randomly drop away since so far they already share phone numbers without too much hassle and even if given the option for "oldschool" forums they will still choose discord...
What are the alternatives? I'm not ranting. I'm genuinely asking!
discord is not "old school"
IRC is old school, and superior to discord in every way
because it lacks malice
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@knowprose
Okay, unfortunately, our initiative is under a crisis where we're having no land to do our activities after being forced to evacuate the land we have rented for two years to do our activities. We're struggling to get our own land amd proceed with our activities to make our dream a reality. You can support is via a gofund.me page below with this linkWould you mind having a video chat someday?
@nuwagaba2 that's what we call a long walk.
Sorry, my donation budget is in the negative. Donald isn't returning my calls right now since I did not buy any Melania tickets, so he will probably deport me.
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@Em0nM4stodon I agree with you on the risk, but try telling an 'ordinary' person that and they'll think of you as conspiracy nut. I'm glad to see the message is starting to get through very slowly, but I doubt it's going to stop the current wave of ID 'verification'.
And it's not like there isn't a real risk to children in forums full of strangers. Until there's a social change with regards to that risk, I can't see there being any change of direction with regards to the other.@GerardThornley @Em0nM4stodon I wrote a small thread reflecting on this, and perhaps it might change your view. Please consider reading it and seeing if it moves your stance: https://mastodon.social/@froztbyte/116042744545154806
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Each time a new privacy-invasive
feature like facial scanning is implemented, if people in majority comply and accept to use it, it will soon become normality, and other options will be marginalized or even removed entirely.If each time a new privacy-invasive
feature is implemented people opted to refuse it, it would soon be discontinued.Each individual opposition to privacy-invasive features matters.
It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest.A protest against the normalization of mass surveillance and the loss of privacy rights.
The fact that there are other cameras around doesn't mean that more cameras or additional scanning is not making things even worse.
If we do not refuse,
if we do not fight for our privacy rights,
we will lose them all.#Privacy #MassSurveillance #AgeVerification #FacialRecognition #HumanRights #DigitalRights
@Em0nM4stodon
Years ago, when websites and corporations said, "We track you to give you personalized ads..." I was like "You lost me at the tracking part."Never considered using biometrics, facial scanning, retina scanning or anything of the like on any device.
These things are not supposed to know me. They're supposed to do a thing when I'm using them and stop doing things until I need to use them again.
All data will get exploited in the Information Age.
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!!!I recently tried to check in for an international flight online. It asked for a picture of my passport, with a disclaimer [paraphrasing] that my passport info would be sent to a third party for processing.
That's a hard pass for me. I'd rather wait in line at the airport then have some third party I don't know about have access to my passport info
@Ehay2k dystopian fkin nightmare!!!!
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> "It is an act of self-protection but,
perhaps even more importantly,
it is also an act of protest."It is also our democratic duty to protect those who can't fight for themselves, who are in a minority and as such in an inferior position to defend themselves against attacks aiming at their human rights or personal privacy.
It's a duty of the majority to protect minorities - because, in a democracy, majorities change...
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I recently tried to check in for an international flight online. It asked for a picture of my passport, with a disclaimer [paraphrasing] that my passport info would be sent to a third party for processing.
That's a hard pass for me. I'd rather wait in line at the airport then have some third party I don't know about have access to my passport info
@Ehay2k @Em0nM4stodon similar experience being prompted to do pre-check-in for rental car. I stopped filling it in when 3rd party site asked for lots of PII. Picked up rental fine, just showing license and credit card at counter, makes me think they are monetising data gathering…
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@nakdim @Em0nM4stodon I'm afraid the one and only realistic alternative is to stop looking for alternatives. In other words, instead of trying to do what they already do but in a different way and with different tools, one should first question whether their "needs" are actual needs or simply preferences they're reluctant to leave behind.
Depends what the idea is. If it's 'yes more consumption/gamification/Candy Crush but Open Source/ethical!!!111' yes that can get in the bin.
But...if it's 'people want connection online' and they are lonely, then yes, you need alternatives. Cos if they only game in town is a corporate, then people will use that as it's where all the people are. That need to socialise online won't go away.
It was there in the 90's btw (most stuff waa actually there, forums, profile sites, very little is new)
I'd like to say Fuck Meta - and yes Fuck Meta - and I'm better off without Facebook after they booted me off...but no, my friends are still there.
That's the problem. People won't move cos the cost (disconnection, loneliness, FOMO, ostracism etc) is too high.
The problem is partly emotional and social - we're a group species...people throw tech at it, like FOSS or whatever. Does not work. It may be 'better', more private etc. but the barriers are partly social not technological.
