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  • shivers@mastodon.ieS shivers@mastodon.ie

    @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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    #43

    @shivers @CiaraNi 😮 I never knew that.

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    • wannabemystiker@expressional.socialW wannabemystiker@expressional.social

      @CiaraNi
      And the word 'stød' isn't pronounced with a stød in it. What's with that?!

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      #44

      @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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      • tanghus@freeradical.zoneT tanghus@freeradical.zone

        @wannabemystiker @CiaraNi I think it depends on what side of the "stødgrænse" (dunno how to translate that) you are.
        https://dialekt.ku.dk/maanedens_emne/stoedgraensen/

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        #45

        @tanghus @wannabemystiker That's a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it. I've bookmarked for a deeper read later.

        This pleased me to read:

        "Men det er ikke danskerne syd for stødgrænsen der udtaler ordene underligt. Faktisk er det underligt at danskerne nord for stødgrænsen overhovedet begyndte at ’støde’.

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        • booksandjohn@mastodonapp.ukB booksandjohn@mastodonapp.uk

          @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

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          #46

          @BooksandJohn We should really do something about that

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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            #47

            @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaüt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

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            • tanghus@freeradical.zoneT tanghus@freeradical.zone

              @CiaraNi @hanscees
              > insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

              I think it's kinda sexy. Maybe because it makes me think of Anaïs Nin.

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              #48

              @tanghus @hanscees Ha - it does actually have a kind of sexy aura in Anaïs. I waver between thinking the New Yorker is being pretentious and thinking the New Yorker is keeping good linguistic traditions alive, depending on how good a lunch I had on the given day I'm thinking about it.

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              • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

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                #49

                @log That'd do

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                • timtfj@mastodon.socialT timtfj@mastodon.social

                  @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaüt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

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                  #50

                  @timtfj Ah sure let's put at least two of them in there while we're at it. There are three vowels, so that'd still be quite restrained.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @tanghus @hanscees Ha - it does actually have a kind of sexy aura in Anaïs. I waver between thinking the New Yorker is being pretentious and thinking the New Yorker is keeping good linguistic traditions alive, depending on how good a lunch I had on the given day I'm thinking about it.

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                    #51

                    @CiaraNi @hanscees 😄

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                      #52

                      @CiaraNi maybe it's like how you're not suppose to use a word as part of the definition for that word.

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                      • bracken@ruby.socialB bracken@ruby.social

                        @CiaraNi maybe it's like how you're not suppose to use a word as part of the definition for that word.

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                        #53

                        @bracken I had to think about that for a second. I think you're right.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @walfischbucht I mean, there really should be

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                          #54

                          @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘täpid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word ‘ääkönen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

                          (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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                          • headword@lingo.lolH headword@lingo.lol

                            @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘täpid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word ‘ääkönen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

                            (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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                            #55

                            @headword @walfischbucht 'Täpid’ - that's more like it. I'm going to need Germans to speak Estonian from now on, so, please.

                            Also, thanks for this information. Very pleasing to learn.

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                            • headword@lingo.lolH headword@lingo.lol

                              @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘täpid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word ‘ääkönen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

                              (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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                              #56

                              @headword @CiaraNi @walfischbucht
                              Aakonen: Regular letter.
                              Ääkönen: Fäncÿ lëttër.

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                              • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                                @headword @CiaraNi @walfischbucht
                                Aakonen: Regular letter.
                                Ääkönen: Fäncÿ lëttër.

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                                #57

                                @Mabande Nice @headword @walfischbucht

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                  #58

                                  @CiaraNi

                                  There should be! 🙂

                                  I love saying the word 'umlaut' 😁

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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                                    #59

                                    @CiaraNi
                                    😆

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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                                      #60

                                      @CiaraNi
                                      I might add:

                                      The word Mühlenbrücke (mill bridge) is also an interesting case of two silent letters in the German language, one making the preceding vowel long (h) and one that makes it short (c). In other terms: Those two ü's aren't even pronounced the same way.

                                      🙂

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                        #61

                                        @CiaraNi well, you can always create the diminutive with -chen, tweaking it to contain an umlaut:

                                        Umläutchen

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                                          @CiaraNi
                                          Omlyd, direkte oversat

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