It seems to me that those who can't see the fundamentally destructive nature of LLMs never fully grasped the miracle that is language in the first place.
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@mttaggart @r343l even the imperfections can be extremely revealing! but with an LLM there is no revealing because there is nothing *to* reveal
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It seems to me that those who can't see the fundamentally destructive nature of LLMs never fully grasped the miracle that is language in the first place. It is the delicate thread in which we weave meaning, and therefore human connection and purpose. Appropriating and poisoning it for...well whatever they think they're after, is a bonfire on a ship made of its own timbers.
Concrete example: “Claudish”.
That’s what some developers who use Claude Code and related tools call the weird text blobs it spits out when “explaining” what it does.
In my opinion, it’s even worse than the well-known ChatGPT verbal tics like “It’s not X; it’s Y” and overusing Rule of Three. Imagine taking the worst trends in both software developer jargon and corporate marketing language, inducing some model collapse so the vocabulary and grammar feel artificially restrictive and reductive, and finally wrapping it all up in a punchy, terse style that is neither clear nor pleasant to read.
Claudish has been around for a while (I’ve seen it creep into various documents at work over the last 6 months or so), but has finally reached a point where even hardcore Claude fans are noticing and getting irritated. https://slhck.info/software/2026/06/22/claudish.
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@mttaggart @glyph Yeah. Our ability to communicate is so much tied into our ability to imagine a mind that works like ours creating the words. When I’m reading LLM generated stuff and I realize that wait this is nonsense because this wasn’t written (or even revised) by a person it’s so painful. Because I spent so much energy assuming it is.
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@tehfishman Same boat. Forest hideout seems better every day.
@mttaggart I didn't reply at the time because I was high as shit and have a personal rule about not engaging with anyone on the internet while not sober; I read your poem about grace as I was starting a camping trip. First of all, I've since re-read it while sober so I can earnestly say I really like it. It has been on my mind since I read it.
Second of all, the forest hideout, while extremely tempting, is probably insufficient. -
@mttaggart I didn't reply at the time because I was high as shit and have a personal rule about not engaging with anyone on the internet while not sober; I read your poem about grace as I was starting a camping trip. First of all, I've since re-read it while sober so I can earnestly say I really like it. It has been on my mind since I read it.
Second of all, the forest hideout, while extremely tempting, is probably insufficient.@tehfishman Thank you! I really appreciate it.
And yes, I agree. Survival requires community and, like, access to medicine.
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It seems to me that those who can't see the fundamentally destructive nature of LLMs never fully grasped the miracle that is language in the first place. It is the delicate thread in which we weave meaning, and therefore human connection and purpose. Appropriating and poisoning it for...well whatever they think they're after, is a bonfire on a ship made of its own timbers.
@mttaggart I see it as pretty much the end of meaning-making which is done as a group exercise, and has a felt sense of connection, common purpose and fit to reality
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@Robinzz3 That's a valuable and important perspective, and I certainly can't speak to your experiences. However, would you agree that your careful, intentional use is uncommon? And if so, is the deluge of language generated without that care is deeply corrosive?
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