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  3. Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

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  • admiralmemo@mastodon.socialA admiralmemo@mastodon.social

    @Jeroen89 I miss the fireflies from my childhood.

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    @AdmiralMemo @Jeroen89 In the late 1960s, I could see fireflies in large numbers every summer in a vacant lot in my New York City neighborhood. #bronx #nyc

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    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

      @Jeroen89 ok, but it's pretty ironic that you're illustrating this with AI style graphics

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      @sarae @Jeroen89 Does explain why the tree on the left seems to age backwards.

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      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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        @Jeroen89 there was a great story about #ShiftingBaselineSyndrome about a decade ago. A biologist reviewed photos from fishing expeditions in Key West over half a century. Charter boats that regularly brought in fish bigger than the tourists who caught them were, after some decades, only bringing in fish about 30cm long.

        https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/02/05/257046530/big-fish-stories-getting-littler

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        • nachtigal@rheinneckar.socialN nachtigal@rheinneckar.social

          @Jeroen89 The same is valid for our night sky. With all the light pollution we forget how a starry sky could look like 😞

          https://nationalgeographic.de/umwelt/2025/09/verschwinden-die-sterne-vom-nachthimmel/
          by @skyglowberlin

          #lighpollution #Lichtverschmutzung

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          @nachtigal
          Also applies to some basic human courtesies 😕
          @Jeroen89 @skyglowberlin

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          • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

            @Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it. 🤷 (Figuratively, of course. But chop you must.)

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            @phf @Jeroen89 what if it wasn't figurative?

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            • pepperthevixen@meow.socialP pepperthevixen@meow.social

              @phf @Jeroen89 what if it wasn't figurative?

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              @PepperTheVixen Then in Germany I might get sued for encouraging people to commit a crime because Germany is kind of a shit country when it comes to non-politicians saying things. Politicians are of course free to say whatever the fuck they want. 🤷

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              • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                @footils @Jeroen89

                I remember there used to be way more insects at night, even just 20 years ago, let alone 40.

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                @jrdepriest @footils @Jeroen89 Even just ten fucking years ago!
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                • headword@lingo.lolH headword@lingo.lol

                  @misty @CyReVolt @martaczc

                  There is no doubt that it is AI-generated. If you look closely, there's a depiction of a flying fish (Exocoetidae), which is native to the tropic and subtropic oceans, and not – you know – temperate forests.

                  Also, the tandem dragonfly (Anax tandemicus) went extinct in the 1740's.

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                  @headword @misty @CyReVolt good point! But this fish looks more like a 'generic' fish, posibly one of the Cypriniformes. It is just depiced in the air insted of the water. Flying Fish have elongated pectoral fins that act as wings. This fish apparently does not have such fins.

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                  • ukeleleeric@mstdn.socialU ukeleleeric@mstdn.social

                    @phf @Jeroen89 Actually, chopping down billionaires literally could be ethically justified... As long as you are environmentally aware, and make sure you dispose of the bodies in an environmentally friendly way. The effect of one billionaire on the world is more than a great number of the world's countries.

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                    @UkeleleEric I’m in favor of eating them. What; it’s not like they’re people.
                    @phf @Jeroen89

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                    • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                      @UkeleleEric I’m in favor of eating them. What; it’s not like they’re people.
                      @phf @Jeroen89

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                      @OGJester @phf @Jeroen89 How much of them would be edible? Not sure that they'd taste very good, due to the nature of their diet.

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