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  3. Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

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  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

    nachtigal@rheinneckar.socialN uair@autistics.lifeU footils@social.cologneF phf@dmv.communityP sarae@ecoevo.socialS 35 Replies Last reply
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    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

      nachtigal@rheinneckar.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @Jeroen89 The same is valid for our night sky. With all the light pollution we forget how a starry sky could look like 😞

      https://nationalgeographic.de/umwelt/2025/09/verschwinden-die-sterne-vom-nachthimmel/
      by @skyglowberlin

      #lighpollution #Lichtverschmutzung

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      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

        uair@autistics.lifeU This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @Jeroen89

        I was taught that Mesopotamia was "The Fertile Crescent", and that it is in what today is Iraq and Turkey.

        I remember watching the news in 1991 the first time we bombed the shit out of Iraq. It didn't look very fertile to me. It looked like a desert.

        Same thing?

        jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ tkalvas@mastodontti.fiT duckwhistle@mastodon.org.ukD 3 Replies Last reply
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        • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

          @Jeroen89

          I was taught that Mesopotamia was "The Fertile Crescent", and that it is in what today is Iraq and Turkey.

          I remember watching the news in 1991 the first time we bombed the shit out of Iraq. It didn't look very fertile to me. It looked like a desert.

          Same thing?

          jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @Uair I don't know. Although it might not look fertile, it's not uninhabitable.
          And the world has had multiple natural climate changes in the last 4000 years.
          To me that might be more of a natural change and less of a man made change.

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          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

            footils@social.cologneF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @Jeroen89
            It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

            atlovato@mastodon.socialA ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ 3 Replies Last reply
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            • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

              Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

              Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

              #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

              phf@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it. 🤷 (Figuratively, of course. But chop you must.)

              atlovato@mastodon.socialA ukeleleeric@mstdn.socialU kurt@chaos.socialK pepperthevixen@meow.socialP 4 Replies Last reply
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              • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

                sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @Jeroen89 ok, but it's pretty ironic that you're illustrating this with AI style graphics

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                • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                  @Jeroen89

                  I was taught that Mesopotamia was "The Fertile Crescent", and that it is in what today is Iraq and Turkey.

                  I remember watching the news in 1991 the first time we bombed the shit out of Iraq. It didn't look very fertile to me. It looked like a desert.

                  Same thing?

                  tkalvas@mastodontti.fiT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @Uair @Jeroen89 It used to be much more fertile, but, especially in the south, very irrigation driven. Thousands of years of irrigation has caused salt buildup in the soil which has made it less fertile. The change has been quite slow in human terms, but very abrupt in natural terms.

                  atlovato@mastodon.socialA uair@autistics.lifeU 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • nachtigal@rheinneckar.socialN nachtigal@rheinneckar.social

                    @Jeroen89 The same is valid for our night sky. With all the light pollution we forget how a starry sky could look like 😞

                    https://nationalgeographic.de/umwelt/2025/09/verschwinden-die-sterne-vom-nachthimmel/
                    by @skyglowberlin

                    #lighpollution #Lichtverschmutzung

                    atlovato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @nachtigal @Jeroen89 @skyglowberlin 👍

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                    • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

                      @Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it. 🤷 (Figuratively, of course. But chop you must.)

                      atlovato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @phf @Jeroen89 Chop their Bank account for not paying their Fair share of Taxes is a start in the right direction.

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                      • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                        @Jeroen89
                        It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

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                        @footils @Jeroen89 👍

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                        • tkalvas@mastodontti.fiT tkalvas@mastodontti.fi

                          @Uair @Jeroen89 It used to be much more fertile, but, especially in the south, very irrigation driven. Thousands of years of irrigation has caused salt buildup in the soil which has made it less fertile. The change has been quite slow in human terms, but very abrupt in natural terms.

                          atlovato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @tkalvas @Uair @Jeroen89 - Thank you; Also the Dust Bowl in the USA for Farmers that didn't rotate their crops.

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                          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

                            forteller@tutoteket.noF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Jeroen89 Is that a flying fish in 2020? 😅

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                            • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                              Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                              Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                              #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

                              _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Jeroen89

                              Good point. But:
                              How can one forget things never known?

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                              • tkalvas@mastodontti.fiT tkalvas@mastodontti.fi

                                @Uair @Jeroen89 It used to be much more fertile, but, especially in the south, very irrigation driven. Thousands of years of irrigation has caused salt buildup in the soil which has made it less fertile. The change has been quite slow in human terms, but very abrupt in natural terms.

                                uair@autistics.lifeU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @tkalvas

                                Thank you.

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                                • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                  Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                  Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                  #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                  #16

                                  @Jeroen89

                                  When you can still imagine something that’s lost that’s something you might be able to get back.

                                  When folks can no longer imagine something that loss is much more profound.

                                  For a few days after 9/11 there was so much less particulate in the atmosphere younger folks could see things in the distance they had never seen before and there were still old folks who could remember and describe it.

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                                  • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                                    @Jeroen89
                                    It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

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                                    @footils @Jeroen89 yep. I've been thinking about it quite hard over the past couple of decades, and it's frankly devastating.

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                                    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                      @Jeroen89 it's heart breaking

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                                      • atlovato@mastodon.socialA atlovato@mastodon.social

                                        @phf @Jeroen89 Chop their Bank account for not paying their Fair share of Taxes is a start in the right direction.

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                                        #19

                                        @atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.

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                                        • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

                                          @atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.

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                                          #20

                                          @phf

                                          No but it can be Diverted to the wants and needs of "We The People", the folks who still may know what nature looks like and acts like. It ain't data centers.

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