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  3. I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @fesshole

    last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

    right here on mastodon

    we're so fucking doomed

    people's brains are turning to mush

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    #22

    @benroyce @fesshole - Absolutely; as more and people begin to rely on fake knowledge from AI. the learning of subjects takes a dive. have an excellent weekend.

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    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

      I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

      aeoncypher@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @fesshole So... I wouldn't trust an AI to come up with anything close to a correct answer.

      However if I wanted "massive list of things with doors" and "massive list of things with wheels" to ground my reasoning, I think that would be a good use of it.

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      • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

        @michael @fesshole > Nothing else has wheels or doors.

        uh you sure about it?

        michael@westergaard.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24
        partly joking, partly "nothing else matters compared to the number of houses"
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        • C cowabbie@mastodon.social

          @fesshole given that most cars have 4 doors..

          mjc0961@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @Cowabbie Most cars also have 4 wheels, so they cancel each other out

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          • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
            Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
            supermoosie@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @michael @fesshole

            How many wheels on your office chair?

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            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

              I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

              ukeleleeric@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @fesshole and 4 driving wheels, and a spare wheel, and wheels in the engine...

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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

                neongod@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @fesshole What about those who will start with "I'm glad you asked. What a thoughtful question..." 😄

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @fesshole

                  last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

                  right here on mastodon

                  we're so fucking doomed

                  people's brains are turning to mush

                  davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @benroyce @fesshole

                  It's akin to the village idiot having skim-read an encyclopaedia while drunk.

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                  • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                    Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
                    lunarloony@dosgame.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #30

                    @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

                    ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA daburudar@mastodon.socialD 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                      I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                      #31

                      @fesshole
                      Hmm 🤔
                      1 on a unicycle
                      2 on a bike
                      3 or 4 wheels and 2 or 4 doors on a car
                      Lorries are dependant on wheel base and class
                      Planes multiple wheels and doors
                      A boat has doors, but if it carries cars, bikes, lorries, vans and a unicycle it has a lot of both
                      A house has doors, but if it has a water wheel, it has a wheel
                      The London eye is a wheel but has doors
                      Fairs have Ferris wheels, the ticket booth has a door
                      The Doors (great band)
                      and Huxley gave us the Doors of Perception.
                      - so Doors🤣

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                      • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

                        @michael @fesshole
                        I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
                        But also 8 cabinet doors.
                        I don't think it's that trivial.

                        ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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                        #32

                        @Anke @michael @fesshole These ones sure do.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @fesshole

                          last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

                          right here on mastodon

                          we're so fucking doomed

                          people's brains are turning to mush

                          eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #33

                          @benroyce @fesshole If all you have is natural stupidity, there's more than one motivation to resort to this.

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                          • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

                            @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

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                            #34

                            @lunarloony @michael @fesshole

                            So... this depends on what we define as wheel, as many things inside a normal household contain wheels for mechanical purposes. Doors, otoh, are not used for half as many things. So if we go by that logic, I would say that there are many more wheels on earth than doors.

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                            • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                              Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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                              #35

                              @michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

                              Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

                              How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

                              Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.

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                              • hisvirusness@mastodon.socialH hisvirusness@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce Whenever someone posts a Gemini screenshot as proof, I always have to ask, "You don't realize how much of a self-own that is, do you?" Right over their heads.

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                                #36

                                @HisVirusness @benroyce Show them this

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                                • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

                                  @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

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                                  #37

                                  @lunarloony @michael @fesshole Similarly, there are multiple interior mechanism, including the engine that contain multiple wheels.

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                                  • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #38

                                    @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole and the spare wheel in the boot?

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                                    • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

                                      @HisVirusness @benroyce Show them this

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                                      #39

                                      @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

                                      but my chats with AI are my entire identity, and my entire thought process. who am i if you deny me that? (/s)

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                                      • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                        @michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

                                        Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

                                        How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

                                        Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.

                                        mmm@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #40

                                        @cascheranno @michael @fesshole

                                        Well, OK, Wheelie McWheelface.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

                                          but my chats with AI are my entire identity, and my entire thought process. who am i if you deny me that? (/s)

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                                          #41

                                          @benroyce @HisVirusness Follow-up question: Do his current training routines involve his anus?

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