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  3. I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

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  • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
    Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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    #54

    @michael @fesshole some windows have 2x pulley wheels....... Wheelbarrows, lawnmowers, my Legos have wheels and doors, if we count gears I think wheels win, but who knows and I wonder if different LLM would give different answers.

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    • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

      @fesshole does ATPase count as wheel?

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      #55

      @saxnot @fesshole It doesn't matter. "Are they asking follow-up questions or ChatGPT" is what's really being asked

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      • ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu

        @lunarloony @michael @fesshole

        So... this depends on what we define as wheel, as many things inside a normal household contain wheels for mechanical purposes. Doors, otoh, are not used for half as many things. So if we go by that logic, I would say that there are many more wheels on earth than doors.

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        #56

        @ainmosni @michael @fesshole I suppose this is the point of the thought experiment!

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        • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

          @ainmosni @michael @fesshole I suppose this is the point of the thought experiment!

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          #57

          @lunarloony

          I thought the point was to weed out the people who offload their thinking to an unethical misinformation machine. 😛

          @michael @fesshole

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          • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

            @Cowabbie Most cars also have 4 wheels, so they cancel each other out

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            #58

            @mjc0961 @Cowabbie

            "4 wheels…"

            Are you ignoring the steering wheel, or do you just live somewhere where every car is a Reliant Robin? (With no spare wheel in the boot, either, obvs.) 🤪

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            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

              I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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              #59

              @fesshole I'm guessing wheels cos most cars, even small ones with just 2 seats have 4. Obviously there's ones that have 2 and 3 wheels like that blue car on live action Mr. Bean show. There's prolly 6, 8, 10 wheelers and prolly a few more than 10

              Number of doors depend on how big and/or tall the building is and how large the rooms inside are. I'm confident there are more cars than buildings, but idk.

              I mean I'm dumb by myself but I'd never ask gptslop for that, what the actual fuck.

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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                #60

                @fesshole okay, but do revolving doors count as both

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                • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

                  @DamonWakes @fesshole personally i would say yeah

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                  #61

                  @saxnot @DamonWakes @fesshole but does it count as one wheel, or one wheel per ball

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                  • xethos@mastodon.xethos.netX xethos@mastodon.xethos.net

                    @saxnot @fesshole It doesn't matter. "Are they asking follow-up questions or ChatGPT" is what's really being asked

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                    #62

                    @xethos @fesshole i am very well aware

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                    • shiitaketoast@beige.partyS shiitaketoast@beige.party

                      @saxnot @fesshole does a voltage gated ion channel count as a door?

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                      #63

                      @ShiitakeToast @fesshole personally i think yes

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                      • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                        @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole and the spare wheel in the boot?

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                        #64

                        @marjolica @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole ah but the spare wheel is not in the boot of modern cars, it's gone. now it's a repair kit only,

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                        • I isol@mastodon.au

                          @mjc0961 @Cowabbie

                          "4 wheels…"

                          Are you ignoring the steering wheel, or do you just live somewhere where every car is a Reliant Robin? (With no spare wheel in the boot, either, obvs.) 🤪

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                          #65

                          @isol I didn't even consider the steering wheel, honestly. When I read the fess, the only wheels I thought about are wheels that things roll around the ground on.

                          Also, auto manufactures have been increasingly not including spares in modern cars, but yeah. Plenty of spares out there, so ultimately cars are a boost for wheels rather than doors.

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                          • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

                            @isol I didn't even consider the steering wheel, honestly. When I read the fess, the only wheels I thought about are wheels that things roll around the ground on.

                            Also, auto manufactures have been increasingly not including spares in modern cars, but yeah. Plenty of spares out there, so ultimately cars are a boost for wheels rather than doors.

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                            #66

                            @isol Unless we start counting hoods and trunks and glove boxes as doors, then it really gets tricky. Is a door something a human goes through to enter or exit a space, or it is anything you open or close for a given space? Because my closet surely has doors but it's not a walk in closet. So maybe opening my car's hood to check the fluids is also a door. 🤔

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                            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                              I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                              #67

                              @fesshole Wheels, just going by the sheer number of ball bearings produced.

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                              • bigpawedbear@masto.nuB bigpawedbear@masto.nu

                                @marjolica @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole ah but the spare wheel is not in the boot of modern cars, it's gone. now it's a repair kit only,

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                                #68

                                @bigpawedbear @marjolica @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole

                                But it says "on earth" so all the old cars still out there with spares included still add +1 wheel each to the count.

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                                • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                  I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                  #69

                                  @fesshole I’ll do you one better, Why is Gamora?"

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                                  • reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR reallylazybear@mastodon.social

                                    @fesshole I'm guessing wheels cos most cars, even small ones with just 2 seats have 4. Obviously there's ones that have 2 and 3 wheels like that blue car on live action Mr. Bean show. There's prolly 6, 8, 10 wheelers and prolly a few more than 10

                                    Number of doors depend on how big and/or tall the building is and how large the rooms inside are. I'm confident there are more cars than buildings, but idk.

                                    I mean I'm dumb by myself but I'd never ask gptslop for that, what the actual fuck.

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                                    #70

                                    @reallylazybear @fesshole surely every household has 20+ doors (don't forget cupboards, ovens, etc.!) and every car in that household has about as many doors as wheels... so if we're counting wheels as being only between an object and the ground (so excluding any gears etc. internal to an object) then it's clearly doors.

                                    A more general description of "wheel" throws the whole thing into confusion, since it depends very much on the definition in that case.

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                                    • akamran@indieweb.socialA akamran@indieweb.social

                                      @NormanDunbar @Anke @michael @fesshole I assumed they were talking about exercise wheels 🤣
                                      Edit: like this

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                                      #71

                                      @akamran @Anke @michael @fesshole 😁😁😁

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