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  • P print@theforkiverse.com

    Hi everyone,

    If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

    #LikeThisExample

    Not #likethisexample

    Why?

    A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

    B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

    Thanks you

    #TheForkiverse

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    #14

    @print The people who keep pointing fingers at me for not adding ALT text to all my photos are the same people who never use capitals (camel case) in their hashtags. 🤷‍♀️

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

      secbox@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @alice @print

      #letitsnow

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

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        #16

        @alice @print The domain expertsexchange.com is hall of fame material for this problem

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        • heylaiverd@mastodon.nlH heylaiverd@mastodon.nl

          @print The people who keep pointing fingers at me for not adding ALT text to all my photos are the same people who never use capitals (camel case) in their hashtags. 🤷‍♀️

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          print@theforkiverse.com
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          #17

          @HeyLaiverd

          Yeah, I haven't had thise people for a while, they don't seem to have a problem with my posts anymore, because they are blocked.

          People are free to use Mastodon etc how they want. People forget, have other stuff going on or trying to do stuff on phone keyboards. And that is ok. Been there myself.

          This instance has a large amount of new people, so trying to educate and make it a normal. Which encourages others to use camel case and alt text as the default.

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          • P print@theforkiverse.com

            Hi everyone,

            If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

            #LikeThisExample

            Not #likethisexample

            Why?

            A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

            B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

            Thanks you

            #TheForkiverse

            trimtab@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @print
            OP was slightly ambiguous on A).. So do screen readers understand upper camel case and read out the words nicely? If not then are you indirectly saying it changes nothing for them?

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            • P print@theforkiverse.com

              Hi everyone,

              If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

              #LikeThisExample

              Not #likethisexample

              Why?

              A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

              B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

              Thanks you

              #TheForkiverse

              riggbeck@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #19

              @print

              B for me. Camel case pleases my #ConanTheGrammarian instincts as opposed to the #horriblesplurgeoflowercase abominations.

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              • P print@theforkiverse.com

                Hi everyone,

                If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                #LikeThisExample

                Not #likethisexample

                Why?

                A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                Thanks you

                #TheForkiverse

                foriamcj@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #20

                @print

                Agreed

                Depending on the instance you're on this likely *Does* require purposeful intent though..

                I.E. people are being tricked into "doing the wrong thing" by the auto complete popups (for hashtags) that are supplied from their instance's server(s)

                "The system" defaults to showing you "auto complete" hashtags and the auto complete versions are almost always in lower case. So, if someone selects the system supplied suggestion.. they get "the bad result"

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                • P print@theforkiverse.com

                  Hi everyone,

                  If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                  #LikeThisExample

                  Not #likethisexample

                  Why?

                  A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                  B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                  Thanks you

                  #TheForkiverse

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                  #21

                  @print but camel case would actually be #likeThisExample

                  No caps on first letter.

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                  • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                    @print what does it do with snake case #are_these_read_as_separate_words ?

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                    #22

                    @ChuckMcManis @print
                    I tried it with iOS built in TTS. It can read it out ok.
                    Interestingly it can also read out the all lower case hashtag properly. Although with a slight change on stress in "example".
                    I guess you'd need to see what commonly used screen readers read out.

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                    • shiawase@mastodon.socialS shiawase@mastodon.social

                      @ChuckMcManis @print
                      I tried it with iOS built in TTS. It can read it out ok.
                      Interestingly it can also read out the all lower case hashtag properly. Although with a slight change on stress in "example".
                      I guess you'd need to see what commonly used screen readers read out.

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                      #23

                      @ChuckMcManis @print
                      Also probably pure chance. It didn't really cope with @alice 's examples.

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                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                        Hi everyone,

                        If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                        #LikeThisExample

                        Not #likethisexample

                        Why?

                        A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                        B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                        Thanks you

                        #TheForkiverse

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                        #24

                        @print I think you won't find a single post without camel case hashtags in my profile 😉

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                        • P print@theforkiverse.com

                          @d1

                          Tusky tries to do the same. Have to force it.

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                          #25

                          @print @d1 it depends on what the server offers as continuation which is apparently the first version the server has seen.

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                          • P print@theforkiverse.com

                            Hi everyone,

                            If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                            #LikeThisExample

                            Not #likethisexample

                            Why?

                            A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                            B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                            Thanks you

                            #TheForkiverse

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                            #26

                            And if you're wondering "Why not #snake_case_hashtags though? They work just as well."
                            Yeah, they even work better since you can capitalize letters and single-letter words don't make it weird, but you will never convince the majority to switch, so just give up and join them. 😛

                            @print

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                            • P print@theforkiverse.com

                              Hi everyone,

                              If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                              #LikeThisExample

                              Not #likethisexample

                              Why?

                              A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                              B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                              Thanks you

                              #TheForkiverse

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                              #27

                              @print ah, sorry, I had been originally misinformed that #'s worked best all in lower case.. I will try rewire my behaviour!

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

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                                #28

                                @alice

                                I also hate seeing people write text where every other word is a hashtag, as it makes text illegible and goodness knows how that comes across in text readers!

                                Far better to put them right at the foot of a post!

                                @print

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                                • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
                                • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                  Hi everyone,

                                  If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                                  #LikeThisExample

                                  Not #likethisexample

                                  Why?

                                  A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                                  B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                                  Thanks you

                                  #TheForkiverse

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                                  #29

                                  @print good for instance moderators also to keep in mind, when you're moderating trending hashtags 🙂

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                                  • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

                                    @print

                                    B for me. Camel case pleases my #ConanTheGrammarian instincts as opposed to the #horriblesplurgeoflowercase abominations.

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                                    #30

                                    @riggbeck @print

                                    A pedant writes...

                                    thisIsCamelCase and
                                    ThisIsPascalCase.

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                                    • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                                      @riggbeck @print

                                      A pedant writes...

                                      thisIsCamelCase and
                                      ThisIsPascalCase.

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                                      print@theforkiverse.com
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                                      #31

                                      @Walrus @riggbeck

                                      medial capitals:

                                      Pascal case = upper camel case

                                      There is also dormadary or lower camel case.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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                                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                        @crabby
                                        Wikipedia calls the example as Pascal case or upper camel case.

                                        Your example with initial lower case is a example of lower camel case or dromedary case.

                                        I guess we are both correct and I have learnt something.

                                        Either way is better than all lowercase.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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                                        #32

                                        @print
                                        @crabby

                                        Technically it is camelCase and PascalCase, yeah, but:

                                        - CamelCase is pretty self-evident, where PascalCase relies on obscure programming language trivia to even begin making sense.

                                        - It'll require WAY more explanation to understand the difference between camelCase and PascalCase, and even that there is a difference, than getting the point of CamelCase.

                                        - For this CamelCase is actually preferred to camelCase.

                                        - We're discussing ACCESSIBILITY, not programming conventions and history. And making that distinction is about as inaccessible as it gets. 🥴

                                        ·

                                        Take this for somebody with quite a pedant vein as well: just say/use CamelCase and forget the mess, being "correct" here is of no use.

                                        Or consider camelCase and CamelCase different words, if it helps. 😜

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                                        • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                          Hi everyone,

                                          If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                                          #LikeThisExample

                                          Not #likethisexample

                                          Why?

                                          A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                                          B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                                          Thanks you

                                          #TheForkiverse

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                                          #33

                                          @print Thank you, I didn't know that it would make it easier for screenreaders.

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