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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

    because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

    hope that helps

    musingsofaboredsystem@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    @eniko I literally clicked off an article this morning because it lead with an AI generated image. Easiest tell the information in the site is not gonna be trustworthy.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

      because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

      hope that helps

      holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #30

      @eniko Someone got upset with me earlier today because I asked them how I could trust an article that had an AI image in it. They said the article was good. I repeated my question and got blocked. This is the message they missed.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

        because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

        hope that helps

        erisceleste@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #31

        @eniko "if this is what you're willing to admit to" etc

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

          because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

          hope that helps

          jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #32

          @eniko

          It shows at least that you devalue the human effort that goes into other creative efforts.

          "I'm a writer. Generative AI could never do what I do. But banner art? That's perfect for generative AI."

          "I'm a video essayist. I research, write, film, direct, and produce all my videos. I take pride in my artistry and technical skill. But I need some music to play in the background so I'll use generative AI."

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            it's interesting everyone seems to be assuming i'm talking about games but i'm actually talking about anything. blog posts with AI header images, youtube videos with AI images or thumbnails, books with AI covers, music with AI cover art, etc

            but yes also games

            ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @eniko I once saw an AI-generated flyer for a punk event and found that utterly baffling. The irony.

            (Perhaps I already said this exact thing in your replies before. In that case, I apologize for the repetition.)

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            • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

              @eniko I once saw an AI-generated flyer for a punk event and found that utterly baffling. The irony.

              (Perhaps I already said this exact thing in your replies before. In that case, I apologize for the repetition.)

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              #34

              @ozzelot it's ok I have the memory of a goldfish anyway

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @ozzelot it's ok I have the memory of a goldfish anyway

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                #35

                @eniko i never had any intense enough experiences with goldfish to remember any particular specimens

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                  because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                  hope that helps

                  ahimsa_pdx@disabled.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #36

                  @eniko
                  Yes! I just made that exact decision with a document which had a bunch of illustrations with this same caption:

                  "Original illustration produced by the author with AI support"

                  I immediately thought, the author probably used AI on the text, too. That means I can't trust it.

                  I'm sure the OP has probably read this paper but I'm adding a link for folks who have not. It shows how meaning can be changed even when the LLM "only" modified the grammar:

                  https://arxiv.org/pdf/2603.18161

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                    because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                    hope that helps

                    discatte@digipres.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #37

                    @eniko I only used ai for every 3rd pixel, honest!!!

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                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                      @eniko I once saw an AI-generated flyer for a punk event and found that utterly baffling. The irony.

                      (Perhaps I already said this exact thing in your replies before. In that case, I apologize for the repetition.)

                      squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @ozzelot @eniko similarly, a local musician has used AI for a poster and it is *tosh*. It’s like AI has never seen a guitar, things are backwards and upside down. The worst thing is the musicians wife is an artist. If he’s ‘that’ll do’ with the poster, I’m not trusting he doesn’t have the same attitude towards his music. Dude you’re an artist, hire a fellow artist like *the one you’re married to*!

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                      • squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.socialS squirrelwithaninvisiblew@mastodon.social

                        @ozzelot @eniko similarly, a local musician has used AI for a poster and it is *tosh*. It’s like AI has never seen a guitar, things are backwards and upside down. The worst thing is the musicians wife is an artist. If he’s ‘that’ll do’ with the poster, I’m not trusting he doesn’t have the same attitude towards his music. Dude you’re an artist, hire a fellow artist like *the one you’re married to*!

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                        #39

                        @SquirrelwithaninvisibleW @eniko Oh, god...

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                          because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                          hope that helps

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                          #40

                          @eniko

                          I'm sure there are sites out there where you can get struggling artists to do this work for cheaper than using AI.

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                            because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                            hope that helps

                            hisold@toot.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #41

                            @eniko When I use AI, I hold full responsibility for truth and accuracy because AI simply can't. I will never blame AI for my mistakes. That would be rediculous. You shouldn't distrust my entire work for using AI.

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                            • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                              @eniko

                              It shows at least that you devalue the human effort that goes into other creative efforts.

                              "I'm a writer. Generative AI could never do what I do. But banner art? That's perfect for generative AI."

                              "I'm a video essayist. I research, write, film, direct, and produce all my videos. I take pride in my artistry and technical skill. But I need some music to play in the background so I'll use generative AI."

                              aens@transfem.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #42

                              @jrdepriest@infosec.exchange @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place Yes, very much that

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                                because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                                hope that helps

                                stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #43

                                @eniko also eating the planet, increasing hardware costs, being no artistic whatsoever and being okay with being called a meatproxy!

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                                • hisold@toot.ioH hisold@toot.io

                                  @eniko When I use AI, I hold full responsibility for truth and accuracy because AI simply can't. I will never blame AI for my mistakes. That would be rediculous. You shouldn't distrust my entire work for using AI.

                                  raktheundead@techhub.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #44

                                  @hisold @eniko: ok there botgooner

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                                    because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                                    hope that helps

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                                    #45

                                    @eniko Today I discovered my employer replaced a purpose-made, pixel-by-pixel, hand-crafted drawing on a blog post my teammate wrote by a LLM-generated image. Reason? Consistency across articles. Yup, all articles look shitty now, well done. No heads up, no ask, just the violence of a personal work thrashed.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      "why are people so upset that i used AI for a throwaway image that's just a tiny part of a much larger work"

                                      because if you used AI for that they cannot know what else you used AI for and so they cannot know if they can trust the core of your content and its message

                                      hope that helps

                                      sadsquatch@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #46

                                      @eniko one of the things that argument makes me wonder: why bother in the first place if it's a "throwaway" image? If it's so unimportant that the author feels it's worth no more than some gen AI slop, does their project even need that asset in the first place?

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        putting a little AI generated stuff in your work is like putting a little sewage in a drink: now the whole thing is sewage

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                                        #47

                                        @eniko Ooh, I've used this one before 😄

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          it's interesting everyone seems to be assuming i'm talking about games but i'm actually talking about anything. blog posts with AI header images, youtube videos with AI images or thumbnails, books with AI covers, music with AI cover art, etc

                                          but yes also games

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                                          #48

                                          @eniko If it's not worth the effort to present it, it's not worth the effort to consume it

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