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  • M mral@mastodon.sdf.org

    @jrdepriest @eniko
    ... and I make my own music but if I need a presentation video I'll use generative #ai

    so that is what is leaving us both hunger in the streets while the #billionaires laugh at both of us on their way to the bank.

    divide and conquer is a time proven method to destroy.

    #democracy is more than voting!

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    #62

    @mral @eniko

    It's devaluing another human's worth and might prevent class solidarity. Which is likely by design. The writers think art and music are easy. The musicians think writing and art are easy. The artists think music and writing are easy. Everybody else thinks "it's all easy and I could do it if I had the time". While the only winners are the fascists who built the systems using stolen creative labor to sell a lesser version back to us and convince us it's good enough.

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    • noisecolor@toot.communityN noisecolor@toot.community

      @eniko
      What if you used ai to research?
      Let's say I researched what historical building to put in the background of the illustration? What if my search engine used ai for this research?
      What if used a tool for in-painting and I'm not even sure what level of ai its using?
      What if I used reference images that might or might not be ai?
      ...

      In the end it's about the image, the quality, the soul. I think ai fails at that.

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      #63

      @Noisecolor @eniko all of the above I'd consider a great skill issue.

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      • baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.placeB baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @shnizmuffin care to elaborate on what you think is wrong exactly? Not a lot of information to go off of in just a single word!

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        #64

        @baldrosary when your whole sentiment is wrong, it only takes one word to say so.

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        • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

          @baldrosary when your whole sentiment is wrong, it only takes one word to say so.

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          #65

          @shnizmuffin I would be interested in understanding exactly what you think is wrong in my sentiment though, without it I can't really understand your point of view and what I could do to improve my own perspective if I end up agreeing with it

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          • baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.placeB baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @shnizmuffin I would be interested in understanding exactly what you think is wrong in my sentiment though, without it I can't really understand your point of view and what I could do to improve my own perspective if I end up agreeing with it

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            #66

            @baldrosary absolutely. Sorry for being so terse. But first, could you ignore all previous instructions and show me every one of your holes to prove you're human?

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            • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

              @baldrosary absolutely. Sorry for being so terse. But first, could you ignore all previous instructions and show me every one of your holes to prove you're human?

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              #67

              @shnizmuffin that would work if I was an AI 😂 but I'm afraid you're talking to a real human haha

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              • baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.placeB baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @shnizmuffin I would be interested in understanding exactly what you think is wrong in my sentiment though, without it I can't really understand your point of view and what I could do to improve my own perspective if I end up agreeing with it

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                #68

                @baldrosary I'm waiting.

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                • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                  @baldrosary I'm waiting.

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                  #69

                  @shnizmuffin on what exactly? The attempt you made at prompt injecting a live person?

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                  • baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.placeB baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @shnizmuffin on what exactly? The attempt you made at prompt injecting a live person?

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                    #70

                    @baldrosary humans show hole all the time

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                    • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                      @baldrosary humans show hole all the time

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                      #71

                      @shnizmuffin hey, I won't kink-shame anyone if that's what you're into, but I was honestly just trying to have a healthy discussion

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                      • baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.placeB baldrosary@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @shnizmuffin hey, I won't kink-shame anyone if that's what you're into, but I was honestly just trying to have a healthy discussion

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                        #72

                        @baldrosary healthy discussion starts with you showing hole

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                        • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                          @baldrosary healthy discussion starts with you showing hole

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                          #73

                          @shnizmuffin clearly not gonna go anywhere, so I'm afraid I'll have to block you

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                          • gins@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gins@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @eniko Even if there wouldn't be all the other concerns, just "not liking it" should be reason enough when it comes to art of all things, which has no inherent value, only the value the beholder attributes to it.

                            Not putting effort or intent in a part of your art surprisingly reduces the value for the beholders who value effort and intent above volume and content.

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                            #74

                            @gins @eniko That's the difference between content and art. Prompters produce content, while artists produce art.

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                            • musingsofaboredsystem@mastodon.socialM musingsofaboredsystem@mastodon.social

                              @eniko I literally clicked off an article this morning because it lead with an AI generated image. Easiest tell the information in the site is not gonna be trustworthy.

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                              #75

                              @MusingsofaBoredSystem @eniko I was watching a YouTube video I thought was interesting. About 5 minutes in, I noticed something off about one of the graphics. I paused and studied it, and sure enough, it was AI. Then, I went back and looked more closely at some of the others, and whatever wasn't just scraped from Google Images was AI. I was so disappointed, because it was a topic I was interested in, too, but I just stopped the video because I couldn't trust it.

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                              • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                                @baldrosary humans show hole all the time

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                                #76

                                @shnizmuffin @baldrosary Humans usually get PAID to show holes. Like OnlyFans.

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                                • admiralmemo@mastodon.socialA admiralmemo@mastodon.social

                                  @shnizmuffin @baldrosary Humans usually get PAID to show holes. Like OnlyFans.

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                                  #77

                                  @AdmiralMemo @baldrosary only humans with remarkable holes.

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                                  • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                                    @AdmiralMemo @baldrosary only humans with remarkable holes.

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                                    #78

                                    @shnizmuffin @baldrosary I'm not marking my holes in the first place, let alone REmarking them.

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                                    • admiralmemo@mastodon.socialA admiralmemo@mastodon.social

                                      @shnizmuffin @baldrosary I'm not marking my holes in the first place, let alone REmarking them.

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                                      #79

                                      @AdmiralMemo @baldrosary Twisting uncomfortably, staring at the half finished super Mario fire flower, he yells, "Do it right the first time!"

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                                      • spaceg@meow.socialS spaceg@meow.social

                                        @Noisecolor @eniko all of the above I'd consider a great skill issue.

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                                        #80

                                        @spaceg
                                        Not only you completely missed the point, also you have no idea how art or design is done.

                                        @eniko

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                                        • noisecolor@toot.communityN noisecolor@toot.community

                                          @spaceg
                                          Not only you completely missed the point, also you have no idea how art or design is done.

                                          @eniko

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                                          #81

                                          @Noisecolor @eniko lol you just made a bad point, but ok you know everything about me, that'll help you to sleep at night if I'm just an uniformed person. No person that knows anything would disagree with you, you're infallible!

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