The new #euro notes should feature peak european innovation.

[ahltorp@mastodon.nu]

@mawhrin @keesjanb @remaster Or, and hear me out now, you can not throw away the cap even when it isn't attached to the bottle!

If you think telling people "you're doing it wrong" is a solution, we could just have said that and no redesign would have been necessary, right?

The new design of the caps has major flaws, something the corresponding design change for aluminium cans didn't have. That design just works, and no one thinks about it, and we don't have aluminium tabs lying around anymore.

[mawhrin@circumstances.run]

@ahltorp @keesjanb @remaster i'm not telling that you're doing it wrong, i'm telling you why i don't mind. and you're still free to remove the cap and complain about the bad eu proscribing the banana curve.

[mattmoose@mastodon.world]

@ahltorp @bill88t @Elektrotier @remaster
The vast majority of handy-sized plastic drinks bottles here in UK do seem to have attached lids. I didn't understand it when it first came out, so perhaps some ppl still don't embrace the idea. Still, IMO it's greenwashing the fact of single use disposable plastics. I don't think my municipality are too clear about exactly what happens to our carefully pre-sorted recyclables, caps attached or not.

[lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@ahltorp @bill88t @Elektrotier @remaster so it's coincidental.

[doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@grishka @remaster
they are not the same on all bottles, some are more annoying than others.
for example if they can't easily be screwed back on again.
or if the cap always slides/rotates to the lower side where your lip should be.

but all in all it's just pointless symbol politics, annoying without solving a significant part of the problem of plastic pollution

[ahltorp@mastodon.nu]

@lritter Then the same thing could be said for less littering of caps in general. No, it's not reasonable to just dismiss it as chance.

[ahltorp@mastodon.nu]

@mawhrin @keesjanb @remaster This is not about my use of the cap, it's a design problem.

The can industry found a solution without major flaws, and the plastic bottle industry didn't. Sending a 100 page manual with each bottle detailing nifty tricks isn't design, and neither is sharing the tricks with us on Mastodon.

[ahltorp@mastodon.nu]

@MattMoose @bill88t @Elektrotier @remaster Yes, single use more-than-15%-plastic containers have been banned here if they are classified as cups and filled in a café. But if they are classified as bottles and filled in a factory, they don't seem to be questioned at all. Single use is still single use.

[kdelta@ieji.de]

@grishka They are a pain in the butt to open and even more so to reseal. I try to buy cans anyway but on 2l bottles it’s a nightmare

[kdelta@ieji.de]

@claus @remaster They are only required if a company is A) snooping on visitors and B) are lazy. My business website does nothing to spy on anyone so visitors need waste no time reading terms and conditions if they visit

[danielg@techhub.social]

@remaster I hate these stupid attached lids. Especially on milk bottles because they flop down while you’re pouring and the milk goes everywhere.

I’ve started just breaking them off.

[znexhf_svax@social.cologne]

@remaster @gruber could be worse — imagine the face of Donald Trump printed on your money

[mcslibinas@mastodon.social]

@remaster @ahltorp @Elektrotier because now everyone hate those caps. Can you open close with one hand? Can you pour water in a glass with one hand? That sus cap fall under flow and everything gets water instead of glass

[magezwitscher@det.social]

@DanielG
I never face this issue. Are you doing it wrong? you have to fold them until they click and stay in place.
Maybe try a different brand?

@remaster

[zbrando@social.vivaldi.net]

@ahltorp OMG didn't know that. The EU should takle the problem at the source: no single use plastic bottles and cups.

[danielg@techhub.social]

@magezwitscher @remaster On the long life cartons this works, but not on the fresh milk plastic bottles.

It could be a brand issue but in general I don’t think lids needed to be legislated.

[linza@kamu.social]

@MattMoose @ahltorp @bill88t @Elektrotier @remaster The UK has ancient, crumbling drainage infrastructure already jammed with wet wipes. One would think you all overjoyed about the attached bottle caps making it all the way to the landfill.

[datenhalde@nrw.social]

@magezwitscher
500er ist abgeschafft
@remaster

[linza@kamu.social]

@keesjanb @remaster fund drainage infrastructure maintenance you cowards

[justme@climatejustice.social]

@remaster looks like bottled beverages are going to get really expensive in the future. Why would you add extra subconscious consumerism signalling to bank notes?