There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil so many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded. I literally just downloaded a nice looking launcher, tried it out, checked the source code and it openly said it was a project in vibe coding. Shame as it looked like a nice concept but i can't trust it.
I used to be able to trust that f-droid apps were ugly, buggy, functional, and made with integrity and care. The toothpaste is clearly out of the tube now but it's a shame what we have lost.
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@neil so many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded. I literally just downloaded a nice looking launcher, tried it out, checked the source code and it openly said it was a project in vibe coding. Shame as it looked like a nice concept but i can't trust it.
I used to be able to trust that f-droid apps were ugly, buggy, functional, and made with integrity and care. The toothpaste is clearly out of the tube now but it's a shame what we have lost.
> many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded.
Yes, sadly so. IMHO, these apps should not be permitted in F-Droid's own repo, and that this needs addressing.
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> many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded.
Yes, sadly so. IMHO, these apps should not be permitted in F-Droid's own repo, and that this needs addressing.
@neil agreed. or at the very least, they have flags for so many things, they could at least have one for LLM use.
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil
Please, let the #IA #entshittification out of #fdroid !
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil I've been wondering what I should do about the app I've got on F-droid: https://www.ravelry.com/discuss/beecount/4418207/1-25#3
Summary: Don't love the tech, but it's been useful in some circumstances. -
There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil
While I see your point, I'm just acknowledging that more and more people are writing code with AI tools, being pure vibe coding or AI-assisted coding.
There's no going back, we should accept the new reality and take all reasonable precautions to keep high the quality of software, no matter the origin. -
There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil Uggg. This is exactly what I was worried would happen, downstreams modeling stuff after this awful GR. We should've just had a proper "we won't make a decision right now" option..
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil I just started using F-Droid yesterday. Gemini AI assisted me get started.
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil Hmm, IMHO, just no. It's bad enough that Google is dumping GenAI into every bit of Android, we don't need more of that.
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil
As long as the debate is kept civil.I think it has already become impossible to try to enforce a complete ban on ai and trying to do so would ultimately fail while causing carnage to the community.
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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.
I am not in favour of this.
In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103
Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.
(Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)
@neil is f-droid still relevant after this month tho
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